Approximating a Cone: Find Volume, Centering Effects & Linear Lines

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The discussion revolves around approximating the volume of a cone based on a contour map of a hill, where each contour is represented by an ellipse. Participants are exploring the implications of centering these ellipses and how it may affect the volume calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether centering the ellipses affects the volume of the cone. There are discussions about the nature of approximation and the relationship between the height and cross-sectional area of the cone. Some participants are also considering the creation of linear lines from the contour map to aid in volume calculation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the relationship between the orientation of the cone and its volume. There is a recognition that the ellipses do not need to be perfectly centered for volume approximation, and the concept of approximation itself is being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific details about the ellipses, such as their separation by height and their progressive size reduction, which may influence the discussion on approximation methods. There is also a reference to the educational level of the mathematics involved, indicating a mix of understanding among participants.

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you are given a contour map of a hill from which you are to approximate a cone and hence find volume.
each contour is an ellipse

my question: does centreing the ellipses effect the volume. I am pretty sure it doesn't but i want to verify

also. if i created 4 linear lines from the centered contour map, could i find the volume of the cone and how.

or if you have a better idea of how to approximate a cone that would help.
please and thankyou
 
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brandy said:
my question: does centreing the ellipses effect the volume. I am pretty sure it doesn't but i want to verify

Hi brandy! :smile:

That's right: the volume of a cone depends only on the height and the cross-section-area …

it doesn't matter whether the cone is "upright", you can move the vertex around without changing the volume, so long as you keep it at the same height. :wink:
 
i don't think u get what i mean.
i have 6 ellipses separated by 5 metres in height. they get progressivly smaller (as it is a hill) and they are not centred, (ie the origin is not the same for all the ellipses).
even when they are centred they don't form a perfect elliptical cone.
 
brandy said:
i don't think u get what i mean.
i have 6 ellipses separated by 5 metres in height. they get progressivly smaller (as it is a hill) and they are not centred, (ie the origin is not the same for all the ellipses).
even when they are centred they don't form a perfect elliptical cone.

That's what I thought …

I don't think you're fully grasping the concept of "approximation" …

of course they won't form a perfect elliptical cone … that's what an approximation is …

but you can slide the horizontal "slices" around without changing the total volume.

In other words: centreing the ellipses does not affect the volume. :wink:
 
its just the upright thing sort of threw me.
i thought you were saying that the volume is dependent on the orientation of the shape (grade 3 or 4 maths)
but on retrospect, if i was that dumb and wasnt sure of that, why would i be approximating the volume of a cone, this is at least grade 9 maths.
ok. thanks.
 

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