Arc Length Int. of r(t)=cos(t^2)+sin(t^2)+t^2 from 0 to sqrt(2pi)

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The discussion revolves around computing the arc length integral of the vector function r(t) = cos(t^2)î + sin(t^2)ĵ + t²k from t = 0 to t = √(2π). Participants are examining the correct application of the arc length formula and the interpretation of the integral involved.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivative of the vector function and the calculation of its magnitude. There are questions about the integration process and the interpretation of the unit tangent vector in the context of arc length. Some participants express confusion regarding the geometric meaning of their calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct formula to use for arc length and have pointed out potential misunderstandings in the integration process. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations of the problem, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there may be confusion stemming from the application of the arc length formula and the simplification of the magnitude of the derivative. The original poster references a discrepancy between their result and the professor's expected answer, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the setup or execution of the problem.

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Homework Statement


r(t)=cos(t^2)\hat{i}+sin(t^2)\hat{j}+t^2\hat{k}

Compute the arc length integral from t=0 to t=\sqrt{2 \pi}

Homework Equations


Arclength = \int_{a}^{b}||v(t)||\, dt

The Attempt at a Solution



I did the following:

\\r'(t)=-2tsin(t^2)\hat{i}+2tcos(t^2)\hat{j}+2t\hat{k}\\
||r'(t)||=\sqrt{4t^2sin^2(t^2)+4t^2cos^2(t^2)+4t^2}
\int_{0}^{\sqrt{2 \pi}}\frac{r'(t)}{||r'(t)||} \, dt

I put the integral in Maple and it gave me 1.9 something if I remember correctly?

My professor has the answer as: \int_{0}^{\sqrt{2 \pi}}2t\sqrt{2} \, dt = 2 \pi \sqrt{2}[/itex]<br /> <br /> Where did I go wrong? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />
 
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cdotter said:

Homework Statement


r(t)=cos(t^2)\hat{i}+sin(t^2)\hat{j}+t^2\hat{k}

Compute the arc length integral from t=0 to t=\sqrt{2 \pi}


Homework Equations


Arclength = \int_{a}^{b}||v(t)||\, dt


The Attempt at a Solution



I did the following:

\\r&#039;(t)=-2tsin(t^2)\hat{i}+2tcos(t^2)\hat{j}+2t\hat{k}\\
||r&#039;(t)||=\sqrt{4t^2sin^2(t^2)+4t^2cos^2(t^2)+4t^2}
\int_{0}^{\sqrt{2 \pi}}\frac{r&#039;(t)}{||r&#039;(t)||} \, dt
The integral above doesn't make sense, geometrically. r'(t)/|r'(t)| is a unit tangent vector. When you integrate, you get a vector, not the scalar that you should get when you compute arc length.

Use the formula you showed in Relevant Equations - that's what you should be using.

Also, be sure to simplify ||r&#039;(t)||=\sqrt{4t^2sin^2(t^2)+4t^2cos^2(t^2)+4t^2}

cdotter said:
I put the integral in Maple and it gave me 1.9 something if I remember correctly?

My professor has the answer as: \int_{0}^{\sqrt{2 \pi}}2t\sqrt{2} \, dt = 2 \pi \sqrt{2}[/itex]<br /> <br /> Where did I go wrong? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />
 
Mark44 said:
The integral above doesn't make sense, geometrically. r'(t)/|r'(t)| is a unit tangent vector. When you integrate, you get a vector, not the scalar that you should get when you compute arc length.

Use the formula you showed in Relevant Equations - that's what you should be using.

Also, be sure to simplify ||r&#039;(t)||=\sqrt{4t^2sin^2(t^2)+4t^2cos^2(t^2)+4t^2}

Wow I'm mixed up today. :eek:
 
Got the answer. I'm not sure what the heck I was thinking earlier. Thank you for your help!
 

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