Are there infinitely many primes that satisfy $p=3$ mod4 and divide $x^2+2$?

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In summary, we can show that for any odd natural number x, $x^2+2=3$ mod4. From this, we can deduce that there must exist a prime p such that $p=3$ mod4 and p|$x^2+2$. Using this, we can prove that there are infinitely many primes p such that $p=3$ mod 4 by building a list of such primes and using the deduction from 2) to find new primes to add to the list. The assumption that all prime divisors of $x^2+2$ are congruent to 1 mod 4 must be false, and we can see that p = 3 and x = 1 is
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1)show that for an odd natural number x, $x^2+2=3$ mod4.

2)Deduce that there exist a prime p such that $p=3$ mod4 and p|$x^2+2$

3)Use this to prove there are infinitely many primes p such that $p=3$ mod 4

1) is easy just writing x=2m+1

2) and 3) I don't know what to do.
 
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Poirot said:
1)show that for an odd natural number x, $x^2+2=3$ mod4.

2)Deduce that there exist a prime p such that $p=3$ mod4 and p|$x^2+2$

3)Use this to prove there are infinitely many primes p such that $p=3$ mod 4

1) is easy just writing x=2m+1

2) and 3) I don't know what to do.
For 2), think about the prime divisors of $x^2+2$. They can't include $2$ (because $x^2+2$ is odd), so they must all be congruent to $1$ or $3\pmod4$. Why can't they all be congruent to $1\pmod4$?

For 3), build up a list $p_1,\ p_2,\ p_3,\ldots$ of primes congruent to $3\pmod4$. If you already have $p_1,\ldots,p_n$, let $x$ be the product $p_1p_2\cdots p_n$ and use 2) to find a new prime $p_{n+1}$ to add to the list.
 
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For 2), think about the prime divisors of $x^2+2$. They can't include $2$ (because $x^2+2$ is odd), so they must all be congruent to $1$ or $3\pmod4$. Why can't they all be congruent to $1\pmod4$?

For 3), build up a list $p_1,\ p_2,\ p_3,\ldots$ of primes congruent to $3\pmod4$. If you already have $p_1,\ldots,p_n$, let $x$ be the product $p_1p_2\cdots p_n$ and use 2) to find a new prime $p_{n+1}$ to add to the list.

If they are all congruent to 1 mod 4, then x^2+2 is congruent to 1 mod 4. Which implies
4|x^2-1. This is not impossible e.g x=5
 
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Re: prime problem

Poirot said:
If they are all congruent to 1 mod 4, then x^2+2 is congruent to 1 mod 4.
That is correct. But you have shown in 1) that x^2+2 is congruent to 3 mod 4. So the assumption that they are all congruent to 1 mod 4 must be false ... .
 
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Re: prime problem

Opalg said:
For 2), think about the prime divisors of $x^2+2$. They can't include $2$ (because $x^2+2$ is odd), so they must all be congruent to $1$ or $3\pmod4$. Why can't they all be congruent to $1\pmod4$?
I'm going to chime in real quick. Don't we still have to prove that such a (p,x) exists? Or do we merely note that p = 3, x = 1 suits the bill, therefore existence?

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
I'm going to chime in real quick. Don't we still have to prove that such a (p,x) exists? Or do we merely note that p = 3, x = 1 suits the bill, therefore existence?

-Dan

Since x^2+1 >1, it has a prime divisor, and opalg's analysis follows.
 

Related to Are there infinitely many primes that satisfy $p=3$ mod4 and divide $x^2+2$?

1. What does it mean for a prime to satisfy $p=3$ mod4?

When we say that a prime number satisfies $p=3$ mod4, it means that when the prime number is divided by 4, the remainder is 3. In other words, the prime number can be expressed as $4k+3$, where k is any integer.

2. Why are we only considering primes that satisfy $p=3$ mod4?

This is because for any prime number that satisfies $p=3$ mod4, the expression $x^2+2$ will always have a remainder of 2 when divided by that prime number. This is an important property for proving the infinitude of such primes because it eliminates the possibility of any other prime dividing $x^2+2$.

3. How do we know that there are infinitely many primes that satisfy $p=3$ mod4?

This is a conjecture known as the "infinitude of primes of the form $4k+3$". It has been proven by mathematicians using various methods, such as Euclid's proof and Euler's proof. However, a simple and intuitive proof is still unknown.

4. Can we find a formula to generate all primes that satisfy $p=3$ mod4?

No, there is no known formula to generate all primes that satisfy $p=3$ mod4. However, there are some patterns and properties that can be observed, such as the fact that all such primes must end in either 3 or 7. But ultimately, the distribution of these primes is still a mystery.

5. How is this question relevant to mathematics and other fields?

This question is relevant to mathematics because it is a part of the broader topic of prime numbers, which has many real-world applications such as cryptography and number theory. It also highlights the importance of conjectures and unsolved problems in mathematics, which drive further research and development in the field.

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