Area under Polar Curves: Where did I go wrong?

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The discussion revolves around finding the area enclosed by the polar curve defined by r = 3 cos θ. The original poster attempts to apply the area formula for polar coordinates but encounters a discrepancy between their calculated result and the expected answer from a textbook.

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  • Participants discuss the method of integrating to find the area, with the original poster detailing their steps and questioning the limits of integration. Others suggest that the interpretation of the curve's shape may be incorrect, leading to confusion about the area calculation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's reasoning, providing insights into the nature of the curve and its limits. There is a recognition of the need to sketch the curve for better understanding, and some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of integration.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the limits of integration and the characterization of the curve as a semicircle, which some participants argue is not accurate. The original poster expresses a desire for a general method to determine limits in similar problems.

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1.Where did I go wrong in finding the area enclosed inside r = 3 cos θ?

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I used the formula 1/2 ∫ ((f(θ)) squared dθ from alpha to beta

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I looked for the area of the semicircle from 0 to pi and then multiplied the whole thing by 2, since the equation is a circle, so it looks like this:

=>2*1/2 ∫ from 0 to pi (3 cos θ)squared dθ
=> ∫ from 0 to pi (9 cos squared θ) dθ
=> ∫ from 0 to pi (9 (1/2) (1+cos 2θ) dθ [Using half angle identities]
=> 9/2 ∫ from 0 to pi (1+cos 2θ) dθ
Integrating I get :
=> 9/2 (θ + 1/2 sin 2θ ] from 0 to pi)
=> 9/2 [(pi + 1/2 sin 2pi) - (0 + 1/2 sin 2o)]
=> 9/2 [pi + 0 - 0-0]

So I get the final answer of 9/2pi. Thing is, the answer in the book is 9/4pi and I can't figure out they go there. Help, anyone?
 
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If you trace the curve carefully from theta=0 to pi, you'll realize it's not a semicircle. It's the whole circle. r is negative for theta between pi/2 and pi.
 
Dick said:
If you trace the curve carefully from theta=0 to pi, you'll realize it's not a semicircle. It's the whole circle. r is negative for theta between pi/2 and pi.

Sorry, I phrased that wrong. I took the area of the half circle first, then multiplied it by two.

Anyway, I am quite confused by the limits. How do you get the limits? >_<
 
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CheapFungus said:
Sorry, I phrased that wrong. I took the area of the half circle first, then multiplied it by two.

Anyway, I am quite confused by the limits. How do you get the limits? >_<

You get the limits by sketching the curve. It's starts at (3,0) (in xy coordinates) at theta=0, r=3 and returns to (3,0) at theta=pi, r=(-3). Calling that either a semicircle or a half circle are BOTH wrong. Don't multiply by 2!
 
I see! Is there a general way for finding the limits? It seems that I always get messed up in that part...
 
Just what I've already suggested. You'll have to learn to look at enough points on the curve to draw a good sketch.
 

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