How Do You Calculate the Tangent Line and Area for a Polar Curve?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tangent line and area for the polar curve defined by r=2-cosΘ over the interval from 0 to 2π. Participants are exploring various aspects of the problem, including integral expressions for area, derivatives with respect to Θ, and the equation of the tangent line.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integral expression for the area and question the reasoning behind squaring the function and the limits of integration. There is an exploration of how to handle the area calculation given the polar nature of the curve.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into breaking the area calculation into parts and using polar area elements, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the limits of integration and the method of calculating the area. There is an ongoing examination of the reasoning behind the steps taken in the problem.

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Participants note the potential confusion regarding the area calculation due to the curve's behavior above and below the x-axis, as well as the implications of using different limits of integration. There is also mention of homework constraints that may affect the approach taken.

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Homework Statement


The graph of the polar curve r=2-cosΘ for 0≤θ≤2pi is shown in the figure. (attached)

a) write an integral expression for the area of the region inside the curve

b) write expressions for dx/dΘ and dy/dΘ in terms of Θ

c) find dy/dx as a function of Θ

d) write an equation in terms of x and y for the line tangent to the graph of the polar curve at the point where Θ=pi/2. show the work that lead to your answer.

Homework Equations



to find are under a curve you find integral under the curve

The Attempt at a Solution


the solutions are:
a) 2*(1/2) ∫(0 to pi) (2-cosΘ)2

b) dx/dΘ = -2sinΘ + 2(cosΘ)(sinΘ)

dy/dΘ = 2cosΘ-cos2Θ + sin2Θ

c) dy/dx = (2cosΘ-cos2Θ +sin2θ) / (-2sinθ + 2(cosθ)(sinθ))So, i tried part A but could not figure out the area of the region because if you did a regular integral of ∫(2-cosθ), according to the graph the region above and below the x-axis would cancel out, resulting in an answer of 0.
i understand that you might have to change the equation into a semi-circle by multiplying 1/2 then later have to undo that by multiplying by 2.
i don't understand why they took (2-cosθ) and squared it...? also why the limits of integration are 0 to pi, not 0 to 2pi?
 

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syeh said:

Homework Statement


The graph of the polar curve r=2-cosΘ for 0≤θ≤2pi is shown in the figure. (attached)

a) write an integral expression for the area of the region inside the curve

b) write expressions for dx/dΘ and dy/dΘ in terms of Θ

c) find dy/dx as a function of Θ

d) write an equation in terms of x and y for the line tangent to the graph of the polar curve at the point where Θ=pi/2. show the work that lead to your answer.

Homework Equations



to find are under a curve you find integral under the curve

The Attempt at a Solution


the solutions are:
a) 2*(1/2) ∫(0 to pi) (2-cosΘ)2

b) dx/dΘ = -2sinΘ + 2(cosΘ)(sinΘ)

dy/dΘ = 2cosΘ-cos2Θ + sin2Θ

c) dy/dx = (2cosΘ-cos2Θ +sin2θ) / (-2sinθ + 2(cosθ)(sinθ))


So, i tried part A but could not figure out the area of the region because if you did a regular integral of ∫(2-cosθ), according to the graph the region above and below the x-axis would cancel out, resulting in an answer of 0.
i understand that you might have to change the equation into a semi-circle by multiplying 1/2 then later have to undo that by multiplying by 2.
i don't understand why they took (2-cosθ) and squared it...? also why the limits of integration are 0 to pi, not 0 to 2pi?
You have answered your own final question.

...

i understand that you might have to change the equation into a semi-circle by multiplying 1/2 then later have to undo that by multiplying by 2.
...
Do you really understand as the above statement claims? It almost answers the following.

... also why the limits of integration are 0 to pi, not 0 to 2pi?

Except that taking the limits of integration from 0 to π is what gives a semi-circle rather than multiplying by 1/2 .
 
it looks like to me they (for a)they just simplified.

What you want is the area here: r=2-cosΘ for 0≤θ≤2pi

What you start out with is: ∫_{E}dA Then you begin to make substitutions. and you're right, you can't do a standard integral, so you have to break your region (E) up into to parts, from 0 to pi, and from pi to 2 pi, so now we have 2∫_{0}^{\pi}dA, but what is dA? In polar it's rdrdΘ.

Now what we have is 2∫_{0}^{\pi}∫_{0}^{2-cos(\theta<br /> )}rdrd\theta
This gives you 2∫_{0}^{pi}\frac{r^2}{2}d\theta|_{r=0}^{r=2-cos(\theta)}

evaluate it and there's a)
 
syeh said:
i understand that you might have to change the equation into a semi-circle by multiplying 1/2 then later have to undo that by multiplying by 2.
I don't think that's what they did. Consider a triangle subtended at the origin by the segment of the curve starting at (r, θ) and length rdθ. What is its area?
 

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