Arising of exp(-ipx) in QM in quantum field theory

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical and conceptual foundations of the wave function in quantum mechanics (QM) and quantum field theory (QFT), particularly focusing on the expression exp(-ipx) and its significance. Participants explore the derivation, implications, and various contexts in which this expression arises, touching on topics such as momentum eigenstates, the uncertainty principle, and the role of linear algebra in QM.

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  • Some participants note that the form of momentum eigenstates as psi(x) = exp(ipx) is derived from the fundamental commutation relation [x, p] = i hbar.
  • One participant suggests that the principle of uncertainty is related to Fourier transformation, indicating a relationship between position and momentum representations.
  • A participant proposes that the necessity for exp(ipx) in the commutation relation might have a simpler explanation that remains unexplored.
  • Another participant outlines a derivation involving the Schrödinger Equation and the concept of eigenvalue problems, leading to the conclusion that wave functions for free particles take the form of exp(ipx/hbar).
  • Discussion includes the potential for other forms of wave functions, such as those involving angular momentum, represented as exp(il/hbar).
  • Participants mention the appearance of the expression e^{iS/hbar} in Feynman's Path Integrals and its relevance in problems with rotational invariance.
  • There is a reference to the role of complex exponentials in transformation operators related to observables in quantum mechanics.

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Participants express various viewpoints and hypotheses regarding the derivation and significance of exp(-ipx), with no clear consensus reached. Multiple competing views and interpretations remain present throughout the discussion.

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Some arguments rely on specific assumptions about the nature of wave functions and the mathematical framework of quantum mechanics, which may not be universally accepted or fully resolved within the discussion.

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Wave functions and their exp(-ipx) are base of quantum mechanics and QFT. But how to derive them the most simply that we will understand why they are base of QM?
It is interesting that Feynman in his book "QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter" very simplifies QED, but he did not give a reason how this exp(-ipx) (or sin(px)) arises.

It is also interesting that his amplitudes succesively multiplies, but paralelly they suming. But one of the simplest form of multiplicaton function is exp(i..) function. Has this any deeper meaning?
 
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The fact that momentum eigenstates have the form psi(x) = exp(ipx) comes from the fundamental commutation relation [x, p] = i hbar. For instance you can verify from this commutation relation that if psi_p(x) is a momentum eigenstate with eigenvalue p, then
\exp(i q \hat{x}) \psi_p(x)
is a momentum eigenstate with eigenvalue p + q. (Expand the exponential, then hit this expression from the left with the p operator, then commute p through each term and see what happens). Then if we agree that psi(x) = 1 is a momentum eigenstate with eigenvalue zero, we have that exp(ipx) is a momentum eigenstate with eigenvalue p.
 
The Duck, you are right. I remembered that principle of uncertainty is a consequence of Fourier transformation. p <--> x. If one (Gaussian) wave packet is short (p or x) in the other representation is long and oppositely.
Of course, commutation relation is a cause for uncertainty relation. But I cannot follow you. There sould be something simpler which gives necessity for exp(ipx) in commutation relation?
 
Hi I am not a physicist, just an amateur, but I had a doubt similar to yours before and I found a lot of help around here. I do not know If I can explain exp(-ipx) precisely but I think that I can organize your ideas. For simplicity, let's think in Non Relativistic QM knowing that QFT should converge to NRQM in c=inf limit:

1) H is the logarithm of the evolution operator, and because of isotropy of space and similar things (no privilidged directions and such) it should be proportional to p^2 (see schweber page 11 of "An introduction to Relativistic Quantum Field Theory)

2) there is a demostration in "Derivation of the Momentum Operator", (Chris Clark December 30, 2009) that says that, knowing 1), p should be proportional to i*dif(phy)/dif(x), asuming not many more than 1).

3) Given 2), you see that if you are in a state of a given "p", then the state is described, in the position basis, by "exp(-ipx)" because of the eigenvalue - eigenstate equation of 2)

I will be very happy if you find this helpful!
 
Another reason is that, due to the formulation of QM in Linear Algebra, the "goal" of the Schrödinger Equation is, ultimately, to find a basis for any quantum system (not unlike the i,j,k basis of R^3). It happens that the time-independent S.E. is an eigenvalue problem which, after substitution of operators, and without a potential (the simplest case) one gets the equation for a free particle, which dictates that the wave function must satisfy \frac{-\hbar^2 d^2}{2mdx^2}\psi(x)=E\psi(x) This has a solution proportional to e^{i\sqrt{\frac{2mE}{\hbar^2}}x}. Using de Broglie's relations, you find that p=\hbar k and that E=\frac{p^{2}}{2m}, we find that p=\sqrt{2mE}. Plugging this into our free-particle wave, we get \psi(x)\propto e^{ipx/\hbar} which turns into simply e^{ikx} using the de Broglie relation (btw, k is the wavenumber =\frac{2\pi}{\lambda}). Thus, the basis functions for a free particle are proportional to a linear combination of exp(ikx), and they will likewise arise in the behaviour of any system that can be approximated on a small scale to that of a free-particle. It also plays a curcial role in the Fourier transform that is required to transfer from the position basis (x) to the momentum basis (p or k).
 
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We know
\psi\propto e^{ipx/\hbar}
and
\psi\propto e^{iWt/\hbar}
but, what about maybe
\psi\propto e^{il/\hbar}
where l is angular momentum or does exist any other options of
e^{i.../\hbar}
in QM or QFT?
 
In Feynman's Path Integrals, you see the appearance of e^{iS/\hbar}, and in problems with rotational invariance, you will find that (up to a degeneracy of dependence on r), the eigenbasis for a free potential is \psi(x)_n\propto e^{il\theta/\hbar};\ l=n\hbar. It appears quite frequently in operators as well, since, for an infinitesimal generator of transformation, U, which corresponds to an observable, the finite transformation operator is something along the lines of e^{-iUq/\hbar}. For a Hermitian U (U^\dagger=U), which is transforming by conjugate variable amount q. Thus, given an operator U, and its conjugate variable, q, the finite transformation operator is of the form of a complex exponential.
 

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