Astrophysics or Particle physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice between pursuing astrophysics and particle physics, with participants expressing their interests in topics such as black holes, dark matter, dark energy, and the fundamental forces at the atomic scale. The conversation includes considerations of academic paths, university programs, and personal preferences regarding these fields within the broader context of physics.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a fascination with both astrophysics and particle physics, specifically mentioning interests in black holes, dark matter, and the workings of elementary particles.
  • Another participant suggests considering astroparticle physics or particle astrophysics as a combined field that encompasses both interests.
  • Several participants note the necessity of choosing a specific area of study for their bachelor's degree, with options including geophysics, astrophysics, and general physics.
  • There are mentions of various university programs that offer courses in astrophysics and particle physics, highlighting the limited availability of combined courses in these areas.
  • Some participants discuss the general physics curriculum, which includes foundational topics such as classical mechanics, thermodynamics, and quantum mechanics, suggesting that exposure to these subjects may help in deciding a specialty later on.
  • One participant shares their experience of applying to universities that offer a course combining physics with particle physics and cosmology, indicating a personal struggle with the decision-making process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express uncertainty and personal conflict regarding their choice between astrophysics and particle physics, with no consensus on which field is more rewarding or fun. Multiple competing views on the merits of each field remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in their educational choices, such as the requirement to specialize in one area for their bachelor's degree and the varying availability of programs across universities.

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I'm very fascinated on both things. I want to study Black Holes, Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Stuff like that in the big world of Astrophysics, but I'm also very attracted to particle physics with the ways forces works on atomic scale, and how elementary particles work. I really have a hard time to decide what I want to pursue, and work with in the later years, but does anyone have any experience they might give out? In this case, which of these two topics are the most hot, and rewarding at the moment and which are the most fun?

- Jon.
 
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Or both - astroparticle physics or particle astrophysics.

http://astro.fnal.gov/

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/grp/ek/

http://kipac.stanford.edu/kipac/

http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/astro/bipac/

http://www.phys.cwru.edu/part-astro/

http://cpa.igc.psu.edu/

http://pa.brown.edu/

or high energy astrophysics, where one looks at high energy >> TeV particles and their sources - among other things.

http://pdg.lbl.gov/2011/reviews/rpp2011-rev-cosmic-rays.pdf

http://hawc.umd.edu/details/gcr.php

http://tevcat.uchicago.edu/reviews.html

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C040802/papers/L020.PDF
from 32nd SLAC Summer Institute on Particle Physics
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C040802/
 
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I can't sadly study both on University. We'll have to pick a specific area to work with when we're getting our bacherlor degree. There are Geophysics, Astrophysics or General Physics (In that specific area things such as: Particle physics, quantum physics etc.) so if you have to speak from your experience, what do you think is the future of science, and what is the most fun?
 
General Physics for undergrad.
 
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QuantumJon said:
I can't sadly study both on University. We'll have to pick a specific area to work with when we're getting our bacherlor degree. There are Geophysics, Astrophysics or General Physics (In that specific area things such as: Particle physics, quantum physics etc.) so if you have to speak from your experience, what do you think is the future of science, and what is the most fun?
Normally, an undergraduate program exposes one to many areas with a scientific or engineering discipline.

One will study general physics, which includes statics, kinematics and dynamics. One will study classical mechanics and dynamics, thermodynamics, electromagnetic theory, electromechanics, optics, and other areas. And one will be introduced to relativity and quantum mechanics. One may have the option of taking courses in astronomy or space physics, as well as introductory courses in plasma physics and particle physics, astrophysics and cosmology.

By the time one is in 4th year, one would probably have an idea of a specialty.
 
In college we will work with Energy, Quantum physics (radioactivity, particles and so on), classical mechanics, electrical circuits, electromagnetism, waves (particularly waves like light and sound) and that's about it. When going to university, we decide a bachelor degree that we wish to take, say Astrophysics, General Physics or Geophysics. If you choose general physics, you will have to decide WHAT to be specialized in, when it comes to general physics.
 
QuantumJon said:
I'm very fascinated on both things. I want to study Black Holes, Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Stuff like that in the big world of Astrophysics, but I'm also very attracted to particle physics with the ways forces works on atomic scale, and how elementary particles work. I really have a hard time to decide what I want to pursue, and work with in the later years, but does anyone have any experience they might give out? In this case, which of these two topics are the most hot, and rewarding at the moment and which are the most fun?

- Jon.

I have the same problem. I cannot decide which to take. Right now i am applying for physics with particle physics and cosmology. Only 3 universities offer this course :
1. Lancaster university, UK
2. University of Birmingham, UK
3. Swansea University,UK.
 

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