At how much of a disadvantage with women is a 5'8 guy?

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The discussion centers on the perceived disadvantages a 5'8" man may face in dating, particularly regarding height and attractiveness to women. Participants acknowledge that while some women prefer taller men, many successful relationships exist between partners of varying heights. Confidence emerges as a crucial factor; a lack of self-assurance related to height can hinder a man's dating prospects more than height itself. Studies referenced indicate that taller men may have certain advantages, but individual traits like charisma, kindness, and confidence are often more significant in attracting partners. The conversation also touches on societal perceptions of height, with some arguing that height should not be a major concern, as personal qualities and social skills play a more vital role in dating success. Overall, the consensus suggests that while height preferences exist, they are not absolute, and many women prioritize other attributes over height.
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Jamin2112 said:
Eh? Average female height in the U.S. is 5'4". You're saying that guys 5'5"-5'8" shouldn't be considered short?

Well... no.
 
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Jamin2112 said:
Eh? Average female height in the U.S. is 5'4". You're saying that guys 5'5"-5'8" shouldn't be considered short?

That is exactly what I'm saying. As long as you're not shorter than the girl you're talking to, you're not short.
 
  • #53


Hepth said:
That is exactly what I'm saying. As long as you're not shorter than the girl you're talking to, you're not short.

That's simply not true.
 
  • #54


Jamin2112 said:
That's simply not true.

If you're an inch shorter than average and call yourself short, should a guy an inch taller than average call himself tall?
 
  • #55


Hepth said:
If you're an inch shorter than average and call yourself short, should a guy an inch taller than average call himself tall?

Maybe I'm an inch shorter than average if we're including Asians and Mexicans in the average, but in the relevant population of interest, White males, I'm about 3 inches below average.
 
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Jamin2112 said:
Maybe I'm an inch shorter than average if we're including Asians and Mexicans in the average, but in the relevant population of interest, White males, I'm about 3 inches below average.
Start dating Asians and Mexicans and all your problem will be solved.
 
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Jamin2112 said:
Maybe I'm an inch shorter than average if we're including Asians and Mexicans in the average, but in the relevant population of interest, White males, I'm about 3 inches below average.

It sounds to me like you're looking for excuses to call yourself short. If we pointed out some relevant characteristic of white men that makes you only barely short, or not at all, you'd probably go even further, like "white men in my specific region of America with degrees similar to my own" or something.

Perhaps it would help if you stopped focusing so much on your height?
 
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Being the exact same height is ideal, for the health of one's neck. This is why women bring measuring tapes with them to bars and wear shoes without laces that can easily be removed.
 
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Re: OP

In an earlier post, I pointed out that actor Tom Cruise is 5'7" and he is one of a number of successful "short" actors and Hollywood sex symbols. They broke into, and made a name for themselves in a highly competitive industry where looks and sex appeal are important for leading men and women (as opposed to character actors). How does a "short" guy break into this exceedingly competitive arena? Hollywood is full of hopeless "wanabees". 6'2" "hunks" work as part time security guards or park cars while they wait for the big break that will never come. Is it just a matter of talent? I doubt it. I think a positive attitude and confidence are the key in any competitive arena. Your negativity is apparent to nearly everyone who posted here. In general, people recoil from negativity and are attracted to positivity.
 
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SW VandeCarr said:
In general, people recoil from negativity and are attracted to positivity.
Yes, we're all just electrons in Life's Big Circuit.
 
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SW VandeCarr said:
Re: OP

In an earlier post, I pointed out that actor Tom Cruise is 5'7" and he is one of a number of successful "short" actors and Hollywood sex symbols. They broke into, and made a name for themselves in a highly competitive industry where looks and sex appeal are important for leading men and women (as opposed to character actors). How does a "short" guy break into this exceedingly competitive arena? Hollywood is full of hopeless "wanabees". 6'2" "hunks" work as part time security guards or park cars while they wait for the big break that will never come. Is it just a matter of talent? I doubt it. I think a positive attitude and confidence are the key in any competitive arena. Your negativity is apparent to nearly everyone who posted here. In general, people recoil from negativity and are attracted to positivity.

Not only Tom Cruise, but also John Stewart and Mark Wahlberg, to name just two. But, you do understand that Hollywood does a good job of hiding their short stature; hence the fact that most people will act surprised when they learn that Tom Cruise is 5'7". Most people also probably don't know that FDR was wheelchair-bound. Amazing what the media can do.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Yes, we're all just electrons in Life's Big Circuit.

Except psychology has told us that negative people attract other people as far as I know, certainly Attachment Theory suggests that, also "birds of a feather flock together" (The law of attachment and also la lay de emparejamiento.. don't know it in English) has been proven scientifically more times than "opposites attract" when it comes to human relationships.

In my own personal experience everybody likes positive people, no matter how they are personally, but that's not what my textbook says. o.O
 
  • #63


Only as much as he believes himself to be.
 

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