Average acceleration of impact of ball.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average acceleration of a ball during its impact with a concrete floor, where it hits at 16.1 m/s and bounces back at 3.4 m/s over a collision time of 1.1 ms. The initial calculations for average acceleration yield a result of approximately 17,727.27 m/s², which is confirmed to be correct. Participants also discuss the second part of the problem regarding maximum deformation of the ball, suggesting the use of SUVAT equations, specifically s = ut + ½ at², to find the distance traveled during the collision. However, inconsistencies in the problem's parameters raise concerns about the validity of assuming constant acceleration. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the underlying physics principles and equations for accurate problem-solving.
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A ball travels vertically downwards until it hits a concrete floor with speed 16.1-m/s. It then bounces vertically upwards at 3.4-m/s. Examination of a high speed video shows that the collision took 1.1-ms. Considering just the collision, what is the magnitude of the average acceleration?

b)
For some balls, the acceleration of the center of the ball, in a collision like this, is fairly constant. So, assuming constant acceleration, what is the maximum deformation of the ball? (i.e. what is the maximum distance that the center of the ball travels downwards?)

I believe this should be delta V/time, however the answer comes out wrong.
I have 3 attempts at the question and each wrong answer 33.3% of the mark is lost so I'm scared to attempt the question again without being certain.

There is also part b) which I have 0 idea how to even start.

So what I have done is:

(3.4+16.1)/0.0011 = 19500 (edit: divided by 0.001, should be 17727.273. Is this correct?)

0.0011 for time as it was given in milliseconds

As for direction it asks for magnitude so it should be irrelevant

I also found this thread and it seems like I'm doing it right so I'm really confused.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...e-acceleration-during-point-of-impact.797568/

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,
Danny

 
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Assuming the answer is supposed to be in m/s2, your answer looks right to me. Don't quote an unjustifiable number of significant digits.
 
Thanks, yeh was correct .

Any ideas on part b? Have 0 idea where to even start.
 
danny20051 said:
Thanks, yeh was correct .

Any ideas on part b? Have 0 idea where to even start.
What equations do you know related to constant acceleration in one dimension? SUVAT?
 
s = ut + ½ at^2

Am i meant to use this equation?
If so why? I don't quite understand the question.
 
danny20051 said:
s = ut + ½ at^2

Am i meant to use this equation?
If so why? I don't quite understand the question.
That is one of five standard SUVAT equations. There are five variables, s, u, v, a, t, each equation involves four of them. You need to pick the equation which involves the three whose value you know and the one which you are trying to find.
A complication here is that they have given you inconsistent information! If the acceleration were truly constant through the whole process then it would rebound with the same speed. (Alternatively, it would lose contact with the ground before reaching the height at which it originally made contact, because the balls is still deformed and not exapnding fast enough.)
You could just consider the downward movement. You know the initial speed, the final speed and the time.
 
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