Average Coefficient of Kinetic Friction between Ice and Puck

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The problem involves a hockey puck sliding on ice, where the original poster seeks to determine the average acceleration and the average coefficient of kinetic friction between the puck and the ice based on given speeds and time intervals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster calculates acceleration and attempts to relate it to the coefficient of kinetic friction but encounters an issue with a negative value for friction. Participants question the validity of this result and suggest reconsidering the directionality of forces involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in clarifying the calculations and assumptions made by the original poster. Some guidance has been provided regarding the impossibility of a negative coefficient of friction, prompting further reflection on potential mistakes in the original calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions using a specific online homework system, which has deemed their answer incorrect, indicating a potential constraint in the problem setup or interpretation.

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1. The problem: A hockey puck is hit on a frozen lake and starts moving with a speed of 11.6 m/s. Five seconds later, its speed is 7.4 m/s. What is its average acceleration? The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s. Answer in units of m/s. What is the average value of the coefficient of kinetic friction between puck and ice?

Homework Equations

: [/B]Sum of the forces' x-components equals mass times acceleration. Sum of the forces' y-components equals zero. Kinetic friction equals the coefficient of kinetic friction times the normal force.

The Attempt at a Solution

: [/B]I solved for the acceleration earlier and got -0.84 m/s squared. I did this by taking the difference in velocities and dividing by the time (7.4 - 11.6 = - 4.2. - 4.2 / 5 = - 0.84). I then applied what I knew about the normal force: FN=mg. I also knew that FK=μkFN. Therefore, FK=μk(mg). While ∑Fx=ma, μk(mg)=ma. The masses cancel out. Then I put in my numbers: μk(9.8 m/s squared)= - 0.84 m/s squared. From there I divided my acceleration by 9.8 and got μk= - 0.0857. I checked it and the system on the website I was using for homework (UT) deemed my answer incorrect. Can anyone help?
 
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You can't have a negative coefficient of friction.

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Your work is correct but you have forgotten to take into account directions. Part (i) has the correct answer, as for part (ii), as @TomHart mentioned, you can't have a negative coefficient of friction. What do you think your mistake is then, and why?
 
I had realized that shortly after posting the thread. Thank you for the help though! I really appreciate it! :biggrin::doh:
 

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