What is the Average of Cosine of Theta over a Specific Range?

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The average of the cosine function, cos(θ), over the interval from 0 to π is not -π/2 or -2/π. The correct approach involves calculating a weighted average due to the non-uniform distribution of θ. The average can be derived using the integral formula <cosθ> = (∫0π cosθ dθ) / (∫0π dθ), which must be evaluated correctly to avoid misconceptions about its value.

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The average of \##\cos \theta ## for ##\theta## going from 0 to ##\pi## is - ##\pi/2##.
Is this correcct?
 

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Pushoam said:
The average of \##\cos \theta ## for ##\theta## going from 0 to ##\pi## is - ##\pi/2##.
Is this correcct?

Certainly not! Cos(theta) is always between -1 and 1. How could its average over any interval ever be -1.57?
 
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Pushoam said:
The average of \cosθcos⁡θ\cos \theta for θθ\theta going from 0 to ππ\pi is - π/2π/2\pi/2.
Plot the graph and see the area under the cos function between 0 to pi. What does that tell you about its average?
 
cnh1995 said:
Plot the graph and see the area under the cos function between 0 to pi. What does that tell you about its average?
The average required in this question is a weighted average, so its value is not evident from such a graph. Or were you just saying this is a way to see what the limits must be on any such average?
 
phyzguy said:
Certainly not! Cos(theta) is always between -1 and 1. How could its average over any interval ever be -1.57?
Sorry, it is ##\frac{-2}{\pi}##. Right?
 
Pushoam said:
Sorry, it is ##\frac{-2}{\pi}##. Right?
If we ignore the actual question and ask for the average value of cos(θ) over the interval 0 to π then we would assume a uniform distribution of θ over that interval. And, no, the answer is not -2/π. How do you get that?
But this is irrelevant here. The given information alters the probability distribution of θ, leading to a different average.
 
##<\cos\theta>= \frac{\int_0^{\pi/2} \cos\theta d\, \theta} {\int_0^{\pi/2} d\, \theta} = \frac2{-\pi}##
 
Pushoam said:
##<\cos\theta>= \frac{\int_0^{\pi/2} \cos\theta d\, \theta} {\int_0^{\pi/2} d\, \theta} = \frac2{-\pi}##
Three problems with that:
  1. You wrote in post #1 that you wanted the average over 0 to π, not 0 to π/2.
  2. The integral above does not produce a negative answer.
  3. This is irrelevant to the question at hand. As I wrote, that formula gives the average for a uniform distribution of θ over the range. In this question you have other information, and that results in a non-uniform distribution. You need a weighted average.
 

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