Average translational kinetic energy of nitrogen molecule

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The problem involves calculating the average translational kinetic energy of nitrogen (N2) gas under specific conditions, including the amount of gas, volume, and pressure. The subject area pertains to thermodynamics and kinetic theory of gases.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) to find temperature, followed by the use of kinetic energy formulas. Questions arise regarding the appropriateness of using 3/2 kT versus 5/2 kT for diatomic gases, specifically focusing on translational versus total kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the kinetic energy formulas relevant to diatomic gases. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct application of these formulas, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the distinction between translational kinetic energy and total kinetic energy, emphasizing the specific requirements of the problem. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made regarding degrees of freedom in the context of diatomic molecules.

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2.0 moles of nitrogen (N2) gas are placed in a container whose volume is 8.4 10-3 m3. The pressure of the gas is 4.7 105 Pa. What is the average translational kinetic energy of a nitrogen molecule?

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2.0 moles of nitrogen (N2) gas are placed in a container whose volume is 8.4e-3 m3. The pressure of the gas is 4.7e5 Pa. What is the average translational kinetic energy of a nitrogen molecule?

So I used PV=nRT and solved for T, after solving for Temperature, I used KE=3/2kT and solved for the total kinetic energy. Now is this my final answer or are there more steps to this problem?
 
physics4u said:
2.0 moles of nitrogen (N2) gas are placed in a container whose volume is 8.4e-3 m3. The pressure of the gas is 4.7e5 Pa. What is the average translational kinetic energy of a nitrogen molecule?

So I used PV=nRT and solved for T, after solving for Temperature, I used KE=3/2kT and solved for the total kinetic energy. Now is this my final answer or are there more steps to this problem?

the *total* kinetic energy due to translational motion is 3/2 NkT

you have solved for the kinetic energy of a typical molecule. which is what you want.
 
physics4u said:
2.0 moles of nitrogen (N2) gas are placed in a container whose volume is 8.4e-3 m3. The pressure of the gas is 4.7e5 Pa. What is the average translational kinetic energy of a nitrogen molecule?

So I used PV=nRT and solved for T, after solving for Temperature, I used KE=3/2kT and solved for the total kinetic energy. Now is this my final answer or are there more steps to this problem?

For a diatomic gas, you should use 5/2 KT.
 
Shooting star said:
For a diatomic gas, you should use 5/2 KT.

mmm... no, he/she used PV=nRT to solve for the temperature which holds for any kind of ideal gas, be it composed of molecules or not... cf. Landau + Lif****z Stat Mech Volume I, section 42. then the translational kinetic energy is just 3/2 kT. cheers.
 
Quite right upto the point of finding T. But after finding T, he/she has used E_av = 3/2 KT, which will be true for point masses with only 3 degrees of freedom. The rotational energy is being neglected. So, E_av = 5/2 KT will give the correct answer.
 
but the question in the original post asks only for the average *translational* kinetic energy.
 
OK, I missed the "translational". In that case, it should be 3/2 KT. Thanks.
 
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and what is K? is that the same as nr?
 

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