Average Velocity from Velocity Profile

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the average velocity from velocity profiles measured at different depths and lateral positions in a laboratory flume channel. Participants explore various methods and equations for determining average velocity based on discrete velocity data points.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests taking the mean of discrete velocity points to calculate average velocity.
  • Another participant notes that if the points are not evenly spaced, a weighted average may be necessary.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of using a high degree polynomial to fit the discrete points for calculating average velocity.
  • A participant mentions the importance of knowing the starting and ending times for the discrete positions to compute average velocity as change in position over change in time.
  • Several participants express confusion about the clarity of the attached datasheet and the specific calculations needed for average velocity across the cross-section.
  • Questions are posed regarding the locations of the channel walls, which may affect the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for calculating average velocity, with multiple competing views and uncertainties expressed regarding the appropriate equations and approaches to use.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity in the attached datasheet, potential issues with the distribution of discrete points, and the need for additional information about the channel geometry and flow conditions.

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Hi
I have velocity profiles at different lateral position of a channel. I want to calculate average velocity from velocity profile at those position. Can you suggest me any equation or literature?
I attached here a sample datasheet also.
 

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If you just have a bunch of discrete points, why not just take the mean?
 
these are the discrete points at different depth so it will make logarithmic V profile so for maximum and mean which equation should I follow? Is it just mean of this discrete points?
 
If they are evenly spaced, then the mean velocity is just the mean of the points. If they aren't evenly spaced you may need to do a weighted average.
 
If you can calculate a formula based on the discrete points, you could find the average velocity. This could be an issue, as you could create a high degree polynomial that would go through all the points, but that may not be an accurate representation of velocity versus position between the discrete points.

If you knew the starting time and the ending time for the discrete positions, then the average velocity would just be the change in position / change in time.
 
It's a measurement of ADV in laboratory flume. I have point velocity at different depth and different width of a cross section. So how can I calculate average velocity in this cross section? If you go through the attachment, it will be clear to you. Also I have the discharge value for this setup laboratory run.
 
Rupayan0504041 said:
It's a measurement of ADV in laboratory flume. I have point velocity at different depth and different width of a cross section. So how can I calculate average velocity in this cross section? If you go through the attachment, it will be clear to you. Also I have the discharge value for this setup laboratory run.
I went through the attachment, and it wasn't clear to me.
 
Chestermiller said:
I went through the attachment, and it wasn't clear to me.
Can you just tell me which part isn't clear in attachment?
 
I have point velocity at different depth and different lateral position in a laboratory channel cross section. And I need to calculate average velocity of that cross section and also average depth velocity at different lateral position.
 
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Rupayan0504041 said:
I have point velocity at different depth and different lateral position in a laboratory channel cross section. And I need to calculate average velocity of that cross section and also average depth velocity at different lateral position.
What are the locations of the walls?
 
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Chestermiller said:
What are the locations of the walls?
Left wall is at y=0 and right one is y=10
 

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