B meson from proton antiproton collision

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The discussion revolves around calculating the minimum kinetic energy required for a proton to produce a B+ B- meson pair in a head-on collision with an antiproton. Participants explore various methods and principles related to energy and momentum conservation in particle physics.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the B meson has a mass of 5.28 GeV/c² and questions the method to calculate the minimum kinetic energy of the proton needed for B+ B- pair production, suggesting an answer of 4.3 GeV.
  • Another participant discusses the conservation of 4-momentum, indicating that the initial state has zero 3-momentum and that the final state must also have zero 3-momentum at threshold production, leading to an equation involving the energies and masses of the particles.
  • A participant reiterates the previous calculations regarding the equality of squared total 4-momenta and expresses uncertainty about the method used, mentioning their background in conservation of linear momentum.
  • Some participants propose that the minimum energy for B meson production occurs when the particles are created at rest, emphasizing the importance of total energy being the sum of their rest energies.
  • One participant calculates the rest energy of the produced B mesons and the rest energy of the proton-antiproton pair, attempting to derive the kinetic energy from these values, but arrives at a different conclusion than the expected answer.
  • A later reply corrects a misunderstanding regarding the units of energy, clarifying that the rest energy of a B meson should be referred to as 5.28 GeV, not 5.28 GeV/c², and emphasizes the focus on the kinetic energy of the proton.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculations and methods to determine the minimum kinetic energy required, with no consensus reached on the correct approach or final answer.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in calculations, particularly concerning the treatment of energy units and the conditions under which the B mesons are produced.

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The B+ particle and B- particle are produced by higher energy collisions between protion and anti protons. The B meson has a mass of 5.28 GeV/c^2. The proton has mass 938 MeV/c^2.

Calculate the min KE of the proton neccesary for a B+ B- pair to be produced from a proton anti-proton head on collision.


Not sure of the method to solve this. The answer is 4.3GeV
 
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The total 4-momentum in the initial state has zero 3-momentum (head on collision) and twice the energy of one proton. The total 4-momentum in the final state has zero 3-momentum (threshold production) and twice the mass of the B. Let's write down the equality of the squared total 4-momenta

4\times E^2=4\times M^2

E - m=K=M-m

K=5.28-0.938=4.342
 
humanino said:
The total 4-momentum in the initial state has zero 3-momentum (head on collision) and twice the energy of one proton. The total 4-momentum in the final state has zero 3-momentum (threshold production) and twice the mass of the B. Let's write down the equality of the squared total 4-momenta

4\times E^2=4\times M^2

E - m=K=M-m

K=5.28-0.938=4.342

I haven't studied this method. All I have done is conservation of linear momentum, how to work out KE, and switching from eV/c^2 to kg etc.

Can this be solved using that knowledge?
 
The minimum energy to produce the B+ and B- is when they are created at rest, so the total energy is the sum of their rest energies, 2m_Bc^2. Since both particles are at rest, their total momentum is zero.

Because energy and momentum are conserved, you know the total energy and momentum of the proton and antiproton. From this information, you should be able to calculate the energy of the proton and therefore its kinetic energy.
 
vela said:
The minimum energy to produce the B+ and B- is when they are created at rest, so the total energy is the sum of their rest energies, 2m_Bc^2. Since both particles are at rest, their total momentum is zero.

Because energy and momentum are conserved, you know the total energy and momentum of the proton and antiproton. From this information, you should be able to calculate the energy of the proton and therefore its kinetic energy.

Rest Energy of B mesons produced = 5.28GeV * 2c^2 = 10.56* c^2 GeV

Rest E of proton and anti proton = 1.876 * c^2 GeV

So KE = Rest E of B mesons - Rest E of protons
= 8.684 * c^2 GeV
= 7.82 x 10^17 GeV??

The answer is meant to be 4.3GeV
 
An electron-volt is a unit of energy, so the rest energy of a B meson is 5.28 GeV, not 5.28 GeV*c^2. The mass of the B meson could be written as 5.28 GeV/c^2, but you don't generally plug a value in for c. You just leave it as c.

Also, remember that the question asked you for the kinetic energy of the proton, not the proton-antiproton pair.
 
Masafi said:
[...] how to work out KE [...]

Can this be solved using that knowledge?
Yes. How do you work out KE ?
 

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