Ball Rolling Down a Slope: How Does Output Angle Affect Distance Traveled?

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The discussion centers on how the output angle of a slope affects the distance a ball rolls after descending. It is established that gravitational potential energy (mgh) converts into kinetic energy as the ball rolls down, with the final speed calculated as v = sqrt(2gh/(1 + I/r^2)), where I is the moment of inertia and r is the radius of the ball. The angle of the slope does not influence the final velocity, as the length of the slope does not affect energy conservation. The ball's distance traveled upon touching the ground is determined by its initial speed and the height from which it falls. The conversation highlights the importance of energy conservation principles in analyzing the ball's motion.
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Homework Statement



If you put a ball somewhere on a slope and it rolls down, how far will it go when the ramp is at some hight over the ground and the output angle is something.Do not take in account friction or air resistance.

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The Attempt at a Solution



When u put the ball in the slope it should have the possible energy of mgh relative to the output, and at the putput it should be (mv^2)/2.
So if the output angle should be 0 the output speed should be (2gh)^0.5.
Then the distance should be the ((2gh)^0.5)*(2s/g)^0.5 where s is the height from the output from the slope to the ground.
I wonder how the output angle will effect this, the ball will get some speed vertically aswell.
Some tips or help would be nice :)
 
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I don't quite understand this problem, because if you're ignoring air resistance and friction, wouldn't it just go on forever? Is the question really asking for the distance the ball will roll?
 
Im sry, I mean when the ball first touches the ground.The slope is above the ground at some height (s) .
 
nisse pisse said:

Homework Statement



If you put a ball somewhere on a slope and it rolls down, how far will it go when the ramp is at some hight over the ground and the output angle is something.Do not take in account friction or air resistance.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



When u put the ball in the slope it should have the possible energy of mgh relative to the output, and at the putput it should be (mv^2)/2.
So if the output angle should be 0 the output speed should be (2gh)^0.5.
Then the distance should be the ((2gh)^0.5)*(2s/g)^0.5 where s is the height from the output from the slope to the ground.
I wonder how the output angle will effect this, the ball will get some speed vertically aswell.
Some tips or help would be nice :)

Suppose the ball starts at height, h, on the incline, inclined at angle x. We can make a list of facts first

-energy is conserved and transfered
-gravitational potential energy is converted into linear and rotational kinetic energy
-assuming that friction is strong enough that the ball does not slip, then it will not lose energy to friction
-the total change in energy is equal to the change in gravitational potential energy, rotational kinetic, and linear kinetic, and they must sum to zero as total energy is conserved

so we have 0 = \DeltaU + \DeltaK + \DeltaR, where U is the potential energy on the incline, K is the linear kinetic energy and R is rotational kinetic.

so we have 0 = mg(0 - h) + 0.5m(v^{2} - o) + 0.5I\omega^{2}
2gh = v^{2} + Iv^{2}/r^{2}

Solving for v we get

2gh = (1 + I/r^{2})v^{2}
v^{2} = 2gh/(1 +I/r^{2})

Note that the angle x does not matter. This is because the length of the slope on which the ball rolls down does not affect the final velocity. Also note that v = r\omega, which tells us that the ratio of linear velocity and angular velocity is constant, independent of length of movement along the slope.
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
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