Frictional Force on ball rolling down incline

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The discussion revolves around an experiment investigating the forces acting on a ball rolling down an incline, specifically focusing on the relationship between gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, and frictional forces. The original poster describes measuring the velocity of the ball at the bottom of the ramp and plotting a graph of frictional force against normal force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, and the work done by friction. They question the unexpected gradient in their graph of frictional force versus normal force and seek clarification on whether there is an error in their method or if the forces are negligible.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in clarifying the original poster's observations and exploring the relationships between the various forces involved. Some participants are questioning the interpretation of energy conservation principles and the expected outcomes of the experiment.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions altering the height of the ramp and measuring velocity, indicating a controlled experimental setup. There is also a mention of a photogate not being perfectly level, which may affect measurements.

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Hi everyone,

For an experiment I wanted to investigate the forces acting on a ball when rolling down an incline. Basically I have a wooden incline with a photogate at the bottom to measure the velocity of the ball at the bottom of the ramp.

At the top of ramp the sphere has potential energy mgh. When the ball is released (without any initial speed) it rolls down the incline and through the photogate. Seeing as the photogate is not perfectly on floor level there is still some potential energy. Yet the difference in potential energy should be equal to the gain in kinetic energy (linear and rotational) minus any work done?

In the experiment I altered the height of the ramp and measured the velocity. Yet when attempting to plot a graph of the frictional force (work done/distance traveled by ball) against the normal force (cos theta m g ) I get a very weird line of best fit, with a gradient of around -0.5. If the key force is rolling friction we would expect a positive gradient seeing as the frictional force is normal force multiplied by the coefficient of rolling friction.

Is there some error in my method, some principle I oversaw or are the forces so negligible?

Thanks!

Alex
 
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Do you mean the kinetic energy exceeds the initial potential energy?
 
Not necessarily, its more of a problem trying to figure out the relationship. I'm stuck on what I should graph for the investigation. GPE and Work Done/Friction correlate positively, yet I can't make much sense of the correlation between the normal and frictional force.
 
Alex22 said:
Not necessarily, its more of a problem trying to figure out the relationship. I'm stuck on what I should graph for the investigation. GPE and Work Done/Friction correlate positively, yet I can't make much sense of the correlation between the normal and frictional force.
Show us your analysis, and maybe we can help you.

Chet
 

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