Basic linear algebra direct sum questions

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The discussion revolves around the concept of sums of vector subspaces in linear algebra, specifically referencing Axler's "Linear Algebra Done Right." Participants are examining the definitions of two subspaces, U and W, and their sum, U + W, in the context of vector space notation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question the notation used in defining the sum of the subspaces, particularly the reuse of the variable x in the expression for U + W. There is a discussion about whether it is appropriate to redefine variables in this context and the implications of such notation on clarity.

Discussion Status

Some participants express agreement on the confusion caused by the variable reuse, while others clarify that the symbols used are arbitrary and do not affect the underlying mathematical meaning. The conversation is exploring different perspectives on notation and its impact on understanding.

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There is mention of a potential copying artifact in the original text, which may have contributed to the confusion. Participants are also reflecting on the development of mathematical maturity in understanding such notational conventions.

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I'm reading from the first edition of Axler's Linear algebra done right. In the section on sums of vector subspaces, he states:

U = {(x,0,0) ∈ F3 | x ∈ F}

W = {(y,y,0) ∈ F3 | y ∈ F}

and

1.7 U + W = {(x,y,0) ∈ F3 | x,y ∈ F}

However, shouldn't the answer be U + W = {(x+y,y,0) ∈ F3 | x,y ∈ F}? You could write z = x+y, but it seems incorrect to reuse x (instead of z) as a substitute variable in such a case- if this is at all what he's doing.



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Syrus said:

Homework Statement



I'm reading from the first edition of Axler's Linear algebra done right. In the section on sums of vector subspaces, he states:

U = {(x,0,0) ∈ F3 | x ∈ F}

W = {(y,y,0) ∈ F3 | y ∈ F}

and

1.7 U + W = {(x,y,0) ∈ F3 | x,y ∈ F}

However, shouldn't the answer be U + W = {(x+y,y,0) ∈ F3 | x,y ∈ F}? You could write z = x+y, but it seems incorrect to reuse x (instead of z) as a substitute variable in such a case- if this is at all what he's doing.



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I'm going to ignore the 1.7. I assume that's a copying artifact. Suppose I told you U + W = {(a,b,0) ∈ F^3 | a,b ∈ F}. Would you agree with that? x and y don't have much meaning outside of the outside of the defining statements.
 
Yes, I would agree with that since, as I said, reusing the x seems confusing.
 
Syrus said:
Yes, I would agree with that since, as I said, reusing the x seems confusing.

Ok, you seem to understand it well enough. And yeah, maybe reusing the symbol is confusing. But {(a,b,0) ∈ F^3 | a,b ∈ F} and {(x,y,0) ∈ F^3 | x,y ∈ F} mean exactly the same thing. Some symbols are 'dummys'. They don't have any meaning outside of the thing they define.
 
I see what you mean Dick. The symbol x simply represents an arbitrary element of F in each case- not necessarily the same one. I guess it's a matter of preference. This must be what they refer to as developing mathematical maturity, heh heh.
 

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