Pavel said:
When you say inclusive or exclusive OR, you’re defining a statement with "variables" so to say (wff), a formula if you will, that says one variable stands to the other variable in the following relation: Inclusive OR is (P OR B); XOR is (P OR B) AND NOT (P AND B). When you plug in P and not-P into the formula of the inclusive OR, you get the law of excluded middle. Now, when you said “they need not be exclusive”, you really meant that for any two variables you plug in, they can be both true, that’s how inclusive OR works, doesn’t it? What *I* meant was that when you have the case where those two variables are the same but one is the negation of the other (P and not-P), then those two variables can NOT be true at the same time. So, you still preserve the inclusive OR as a relation of two variables to each other, but the variables will never be true at the same time in this case, because one variable is the negation of the other. It’s that simple!
You're saying that the variables will never be true at the same time, because one variable is the negation of the other. You're implicitly assuming that if one variable is the negation of the other, then both cannot be true. What exactly is this assumption? LNC, precisely. So, LEM on it's own still allows for the three possibilities, and when you assume LNC (which you did impicitly) the third option vanishes. In other words, if I ask you "why does the third option disappear?" you'll say, "because of the way 'negation' is in there." "But what's so special about negation? What is it about negation that makes that third option disappear?" To this, you would have to answer that it is precisely what LNC says that makes 'negation' work in such a way to have the third option disappear.
Now, to be honest, there is some circularity here, I think. Let's replace negation with "gorblab". If we have two rules, LEM' and LNC' as follows, let's see what we get. LEM' states P OR gorblab-P, so we have three options:
1. P
2. gorblab-P
3. P AND gorblab-P
LNC' gives us gorblab(P AND gorblab-P). In other words, gorblab(option 3). If we assume LEM' and LNC', then we have 3 options:
option 1 AND gorblab(option 3)
option 2 AND gorblab(option 3)
option 3 AND gorblab(option 3)
Does "option 3 AND gorblab(option 3)" give us a reaosn to reject option 3? I don't think so. Therefore, I think there's more to negation than LNC and LEM can tell us. If "option 3 AND gorblab(option 3)" is inherently contradictory (note that it's in the form Q and gorblab-Q, where Q is option 3), then we don't even need LNC, it's superfluous. I think this is why you went straight to saying that, by virtue of the second variable being the negation of the first, option three was not allowed. You based that argument off an intuitive notion you had of negation. Now, you could have used LNC to get rid of option 3, but really, we just showed that LNC doesn't do that on it's own, and it only does if we carry that intuitive notion of negation in the first place, i.e. LNC doesn't replace an intuitive notion in a more formal manner because it still needs that intuitive notion to make sense. I believe, however, that the set-interpretation might be closer to a formalization of LNC (That P and ~P are disjoint sets) than ~(P and ~P). Of course, what does it mean for two sets to be disjoint? If x is in a set P, then the negation of "x is in ~P" is true. So, again, we come down to a question of what it means to have a negation. At least we can visualize what it means for sets to be disjoint, even if we can't express it without some circularity.
Indeed, words cannot all be defined completely in terms of words. If so, they'd all be meaningless. You can't build a tower, one brick on top of the next, if you don't have a foundational brick firmly rooted in the ground to start with. Ultimately, there are some words which we will find very difficult to express the meaning of. Try defining "reality" "existence" "actual", etc., without using those terms. I think defining "negation" would be a similar task. We all know, for the most part, what each of us means when we try to talk about these things, although we can't explain them in simpler words. For this reason, I can see why there might be confusion about how "not" should be used, and thus why some people will agree with LNC, and others won't, while both will claim to speak the same language, and claim to be referring to the same concept "negation."
Construct a truth table for the law of excluded middle and see for yourself. Yes, that’s an inclusive OR, but you will NEVER get 1 1 in the “formula” (wff), because the other variable is 0 by virtue of negation.
Not purely by virtue of negation, but by virtue of LNC, and what it says about negation. If you're talking about truth tables, you're already assuming a bivalent logic (in a fuzzy logic, I suppose you'd have more than 1's and 0's, you could have 1/e or 0.298374444444...) and so you're already assuming LNC and LEM. Or maybe you're right. But then what is it about "negation" that makes ~P = 0 if P = 1? Is it that it is fundamentally true that P \neq ~P? Well, what does that mean? It means P is
not equal to not-P, or ~(P = ~P). We're essentially back where we've started. If you are going to say anything like "by virtue of negation," you will be necessarily assuming something about what "negation" means. You'd be assuming something it appears I would agree with, but it's something fundamentally inexpressible, and so it's hard to tell another that he's wrong if he treats negation and the implications of negation differently, unless you can claim to have made up the English language, or language in general.