Basis - Complex Vector Space and Real Vector Space

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The problem involves finding a basis for a complex vector space X when regarded as a real vector space, as well as determining the dimension of X in both contexts. The discussion centers around the relationship between complex and real vector spaces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of the basis elements and their linear independence over different fields. Questions arise regarding the role of specific basis choices and the generalization of findings from simple cases.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the implications of linear independence and the nature of basis transformations between complex and real vector spaces. Some guidance on the independence of basis elements has been provided, but multiple interpretations and approaches are still being explored.

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There is a mention of the potential for multiple valid bases and the concept of complexification of real vector spaces, indicating a broader exploration of the topic beyond the immediate problem.

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Homework Statement


Let {e1,...,en} be a basis for a complex vector space X. Find a basis for X regarded as a real vector space. What is the dimension of X in either case?


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I'm really not sure where to begin with this question.
Are the ej's something like (i, 0, 0,...), (0,i,0,...)?
If so, could we take {ie1,...,ien} as the basis for X regarded as a real vector space?

Also, I think that the dimension in either case is n. Does anyone know if that is correct?

Thank you very much.
 
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Consider the case when n=1 and try to generalize. Notice that over C:

a*e1 = (x+iy)e1 = xe1 + yie1

And this is zero if and only if x and y are, so we immediately get that e1 and ie1 are linearly independent.
 
Thank you for your response.

I definitely see why that is true, but I am confused as to what role that fact plays into this problem. Do you think you could explain it? Thanks so much.
 
The point is that over C, e1 and i*e1 are not linearly independent. Over R, they are.
 
A blast from the past:
Sorry, I did a search, and got this post; thought it would be better to followup on
it instead of doing a new post:


Is this considered to be the canonical way of turning an n- complex vector space into
a 2n-real vector space.?. I mean, there are many ways of getting a real basis once
we are given a complex basis, but this one seems to be nice in that the original basis
seems to be somehow "embedded" in the real basis {e1,ie1,...,en,ien}.

Also: is there a construction that allows us to go in the opposite direction, i.e.,
we are given an n-real vector space V_r , and we want to construct a complex
vector space in which V_r is " embedded" , in the sense that if we were to forget/drop
the complex part, we would get V_r back, i.e., if we took the basis {e1,ie1,..,en,ien}
as above, and we ignored the vectors iej , to get the vector space V_r with basis:
{e1,e2,...,en}. Is this the complexification of V_r.?

Thanks.
 
You are really just talking about choices of basis here. {e1,(1+i)e1...en,(1+i)en} is also a 2n vector real basis for the complex space. The 'real' part is still embedded in there. It's all pretty arbitrary, as far as I know.
 

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