Undergrad Basis of 2x2 matrices with real entries

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The basis for 2x2 matrices with real entries consists of four linearly independent matrices that span the space, specifically the standard basis matrices. These matrices include the identity matrix and matrices with a single entry of 1 in each position. The discussion clarifies that commutativity is not relevant when determining a basis for this space. Additionally, the Pauli matrices and the identity matrix form a basis for Hermitian 2x2 complex matrices, but not for all complex 2x2 matrices, which require a basis of eight elements. Understanding the distinction between real and complex matrices is crucial for identifying their respective bases.
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What is the basis of 2x2 matrices with real entries? I know that the basis of 2x2 matrices with complex entries are 3 Pauli matrices and unit matrix:
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\[0.3em]<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix},
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; -i \\[0.3em]<br /> i &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; -1 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
What about in the case of real 2x2 matrices? How many matrices is there in the basis?
 
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It's the same problem as selecting a basis of ##\mathbf{R}^4## e.g. via the correspondence ##\begin{pmatrix} a_1 & a_2 \\ a_3 & a_4 \end{pmatrix} \leftrightarrow (a_1,a_2,a_3,a_4)##
 
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So I again need four matrices? As in a complex case? Is the basis then
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix},
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix},
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}?
 
That's fine, but it's of course not unique.
 
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Yes. Thank you. So I can see if some 2x2 matrix
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> a_{11} &amp; a_{12} \\[0.3em]<br /> a_{21} &amp; a_{22} \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
commute with
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
then the matrix commute with any 2x2 matrix?
 
Well yes, but I think the only matrices that commute with all four of those are of the form ##\mathrm{diag}(a,a) = aI##, i.e. multiples of the identity.
 
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LagrangeEuler said:
Yes. Thank you. So I can see if some 2x2 matrix
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> a_{11} &amp; a_{12} \\[0.3em]<br /> a_{21} &amp; a_{22} \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
commute with
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 1 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 0 \\[0.3em]<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\[0.3em]<br /> \end{bmatrix}
then the matrix commute with any 2x2 matrix?
Since you're asking about a basis for ##\mathbb M_{2\times2}##, square matrices of order 2 with real entries, commutivity doesn't enter into things. For a basis, you need four linearly independent matrices ##M_1, M_2, M_3, M_4## that span ##\mathbb M_{2\times2}##. The matrices you list in post 5 are the standard basis for this space, although as already stated, there are other possibilities for a basis.
 
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ergospherical said:
Well yes, but I think the only matrices that commute with all four of those are of the form ##\mathrm{diag}(a,a) = aI##, i.e. multiples of the identity.
Yes of course. It is also a center of group ##GL_2(\mathbb{R})##.
 
Mark44 said:
Since you're asking about a basis for ##\mathbb M_{2\times2}##, square matrices of order 2 with real entries, commutivity doesn't enter into things. For a basis, you need four linearly independent matrices ##M_1, M_2, M_3, M_4## that span ##\mathbb M_{2\times2}##. The matrices you list in post 5 are the standard basis for this space, although as already stated, there are other possibilities for a basis.
Ok. But using that you can for instance to find the center of group ##GL_2(\mathbb{R})##.
 
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LagrangeEuler said:
So I again need four matrices? As in a complex case?

The Pauli matrices plus the identity are not a basis for all complex 2x2 matrices. They are a basis for the Hermitian 2x2 complex matrices.

To cover all 2x2 complex matrices you need a basis with 8 elements.
 
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Really I am pretty sure that I read that those matrices are basis in ##\mathbb{C}^{2x2}##.
 
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The Bill said:
The Pauli matrices plus the identity are not a basis for all complex 2x2 matrices. They are a basis for the Hermitian 2x2 complex matrices.

To cover all 2x2 complex matrices you need a basis with 8 elements.
LagrangeEuler said:
Really I am pretty sure that I read that those matrices are basis in ##\mathbb{C}^{2x2}##.
This all depends whether the field of scalars are the Real or Complex numbers. Complex 2x2 matrices can be seen as a 4D Vector Space over ##\mathbb C##, and the set of Hermitian matrices is not a subspace. Or, they can be seen as an 8D Vector Space over ##\mathbb R##, in which case the set of Hermitian matrices is a 4D subspace.
 
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