Batteries connected in parallel and resistance

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The discussion revolves around the effective potential difference across a resistor connected to a parallel configuration of batteries with differing electromotive forces (e.m.f.), specifically a 2V and a 6V battery. Participants are exploring the implications of connecting batteries of different voltages in parallel and the resulting circuit behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss Kirchhoff's laws and the contradictions arising from applying them to a circuit with batteries of different voltages. Questions are raised about the real-world implications of such a setup and the assumptions of ideal batteries that may not hold true.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the validity of connecting batteries of different voltages in parallel and exploring the consequences of such a connection. Some guidance is offered regarding the potential risks and the behavior of batteries in this scenario, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There are concerns about the internal resistance of the batteries and the implications of connecting them in parallel, as well as references to educational experiences regarding battery connections. Participants are also considering the effects of connecting batteries with different internal resistances and the potential outcomes of such configurations.

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Homework Statement


What i may ask may seem simple, but it is casuing me a lot of headaches. What is the effective potential difference across a resistor if it is connected to a parrallel connection of batteries. Let's quantify the variables. Battery one has an e.m.f. of 2 V while battery 2 has an e.m.f. of 6V. Resistor has a resistance of 7ohms.

Homework Equations


Kirchoff's spotential difference law

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok, according to kirchhoffs second law, for any closed loop, the algebraic sum of potential difference is 0. But for both closed loops, the potential difference across the resistor is different. So what really happens in this case? Will the potential difference across the resistor be 5V and the 2V battery does not release a current at all? Please help. Surely this is not the case.
 
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The lower potential battery is something of a short circuit across the higher potential battery, so some energy (current) from the higher potential battery flows to the lower one. Both batteries would have some internal resistance (usually low).
 
note the problem here is that you have connect two supposedly ideal voltage source in parallel 6V vs 2V, each will try to maintain a different voltage at the common terminal! that means normal ideal circuit analysis assumptions cannot be applied for your circuit is inconsistent (it is like saying terminal AB must be 6V and 2V simultaneously which cannot happen in a classical world). That is why you are getting a contradiction when applying your rules.
 
Hmm so what really happends if we were to set up such a connection in reality? What assumptions of an ideal battery might be compromised?
 
I wouldn't advise you to try this. In first semester we learned to never connect batteries of different voltages in parallel. the result will be bad.

Batteries of equal potential must be carefully considered for this as they should be exactly the same. They will produce half the current each to the resistor.
 
Astronuc said:
The lower potential battery is something of a short circuit across the higher potential battery, so some energy (current) from the higher potential battery flows to the lower one. Both batteries would have some internal resistance (usually low).

if i connect 1.5 v battery of internal resistance 0.5 ohm in parallel with 1.2 v cell of 0.7 ohm internal resistance what will happen?
and if i connect whole ckt to the infinity load than what would be the power diliverd by the battery?
 
pooface said:
I wouldn't advise you to try this. In first semester we learned to never connect batteries of different voltages in parallel. the result will be bad.

What kind of result can we expect. Can it happen that the batteries will also be charged/discharged in such a manner that both of them have same potential.
 
i have one exercise about it and i don't know how to calculatwe pls tell me calculation
 
Draw the resulting circuit (be sure to include the battery internal resistances). Apply Kirchhoff's and Ohms laws to analyze it.
 
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Define voltage & current batteries in parallel
V= increase I= same
In series what ?
 
  • #11
Identical natures of battery
in series the emf varies at load as increase in voltage & current remain same
the polarity tune as +to - Or -to +

in parallel case it is consider to batt of same range in voltage & internal registance
in this case amp increase but voltage remains same
 

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