Beauty of old electrical and measuring things, etc.

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The forum discussion centers around the appreciation and restoration of vintage electrical devices and measuring instruments, particularly from the early 20th century. Participants share insights on specific components like knob and tube wiring, HP 651A Test Oscillator, and various antique light switches. The conversation highlights the beauty and craftsmanship of these devices, with members expressing nostalgia and sharing personal stories related to their collections. The discussion encourages others to contribute their own vintage finds, fostering a community of enthusiasts.

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  • Understanding of vintage electrical components, specifically knob and tube wiring.
  • Familiarity with the HP 651A Test Oscillator and its applications.
  • Knowledge of thermocouples, particularly Type J thermocouples.
  • Basic skills in restoring and maintaining vintage electrical devices.
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  • Research the history and applications of knob and tube wiring.
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  • Explore the principles of thermocouples and their calibration methods.
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  • #481
Nice camera. Let's hope it works and that you can find some film to fit it.

I like the atomic logo too.
 
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  • #482
In the same vein, here's my "used to be my parents" Bell and Howell movie camera and case, from the 1950's
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  • #483
My Dad had something like that too and the projector to go with it. My how things have absolutely changed.
 
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  • #484
jedishrfu said:
My Dad had something like that too and the projector to go with it. My how things have absolutely changed.
Yeah, mine too. Remember how every once in a while the film would break during home movie night? Dad would say, "We will now take a quick break while I splice this back together...". I guess we still have something similar -- "Dad, our WiFi just went down!" :wink:
 
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  • #485
berkeman said:
Yeah, mine too. Remember how every once in a while the film would break during home movie night? Dad would say, "We will now take a quick break while I splice this back together...". I guess we still have something similar -- "Dad, our WiFi just went down!" :wink:
We had the projector too, though I don't know what came of it. Did anyone else's folks have the Light Bar for the camera? It Looked like this:
https://d3h6k4kfl8m9p0.cloudfront.net/stories/IhHqBoi5vwc61d7GHxm6Hw.jpeg
It was used for indoor filming. The camera would mount on top.
 
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  • #486
DennisN said:
Here is my recently bought Yashica Electro 35 rangefinder camera (from late 1960s to early 1970s).
Quote from Wikipedia: "It was the first electronically controlled camera."

I won it recently at an online auction for about $66. It is in marvellous condition (near mint).

I bought it for nostalgic reasons; my father had one and it was one of the very first cameras I used as a child.
It was amazing to get a hold of one, since I started to remember all the controls and even the look in the viewfinder. I even recognized the smell of it, actually!

It may very well work too, and I am thinking of trying to use it some day.
Wow that's amazing condition. Is that an f1.7 lens? Nice. If you ever get tired of it let me know :)
 
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  • #487
gmax137 said:
Is that an f1.7 lens?
Yes. And the lens is fixed to the camera, so it can't be used on other cameras without using violence. :smile:
 
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  • #488
gmax137 said:
If you ever get tired of it let me know :)
I was keeping an eye on Ebay for a while for Yashica Electro 35, and there were/are items available in various conditions between ca $70 and $140. I saw one in excellent condition for about $140 available for shipping from Japan, and I was considering it for a while. Later, I was lucky to find my item on a Swedish online auction site for a much better price, so I went for that one.
 
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  • #489
Now that's some beauty. Thanks for posting it here.
"...and I am thinking of trying to use it some day."
Which makes it even more beautiful.
 
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  • #490
jedishrfu said:
Nice camera. Let's hope it works and that you can find some film to fit it.

I like the atomic logo too.
Both Kodak and Fuji still make 35mm film, readily available too!
 
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DennisN said:
Here is my recently bought Yashica Electro 35 rangefinder camera (from late 1960s to early 1970s).
Quote from Wikipedia: "It was the first electronically controlled camera."

I won it recently at an online auction for about $66. It is in marvellous condition (near mint).

I bought it for nostalgic reasons; my father had one and it was one of the very first cameras I used as a child.
It was amazing to get a hold of one, since I started to remember all the controls and even the look in the viewfinder. I even recognized the smell of it, actually!

Here are some photos:

Front:
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Back (opened):
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The "atomic" logo:
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Top:
(from left to right: film winder, hot shoe for flash, exposure indicators (I think) (slow/over), film ISO setting, shutter button, frame winder, frame number window)

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Lens closeup:
(the red "thingy" on the lens is a timer for taken timed shots. You pull it to a certain distance and then press the shutter button, and when the timer "thingy" reaches the default position, a photo is taken)

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It may very well work too, and I am thinking of trying to use it some day.
My "first" camera was something similar to this:
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Not exact, it was a Kodak, and a fold-out, but some of the details were different. Again, it was my parents. I started using it when I wanted to get into having my own dark room set up. It was perfect for starting out, as the negatives were large enough to produce a usable photo from just a contact print, with no need for an enlarger.
Later, after I had saved enough, I bought an enlarger, and my brother gave me his 35 mm SLR to use.
I even got ambitious and started using color film, developing and printing myself (Much more of a hassle then working with B&W. For one, everything has to be done by feel in total darkness)
 
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  • #492
Tom.G said:
Both Kodak and Fuji still make 35mm film, readily available too!
Don't forget Ilford. I used a lot of their film (35 and 120) and their paper, too. Up until a couple years ago. I may resurrect my darkroom someday. I moved and there's no good space in my new house.
 
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  • #493
gmax137 said:
I may resurrect my darkroom someday.
That would be an great project. I put up some black curtains around my kitchen stove albeit it's used for photo resist exposing and developing.
 
  • #494
dlgoff said:
That would be an great project. I put up some black curtains around my kitchen stove albeit it's used for photo resist exposing and developing.
LOL, so what about food preparation? Your story reminds me of the guy who lived on a sailboat with his wife. He wanted a woodworking shop, so he put a bench, vise and table saw in the forward compartment, taking away all the beds. His wife had to sleep outdoors on top of the deck. You can guess what she had to say about that.
 
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  • #495
anorlunda said:
LOL, so what about food preparation?
I don't eat. Just kidding. I've learned how to do most cooking with the microwave oven; that and I purchase lots of frozen eatables.
 
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  • #496
anorlunda said:
He wanted a woodworking shop, so he put a bench, vise and table saw in the forward compartment, taking away all the beds. His wife had to sleep outdoors on top of the deck. You can guess what she had to say about that.

Did they ever find the husband? And the anchor? And six or so feet of line?
 
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  • #497
Vanadium 50 said:
Did they ever find the husband?
Yes. Twice, with two anchors. The wife used the table saw and tried the "Sawing a man in half" magic trick on him, and it went "wrong".
 
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  • #498
I would posit the boat sank because in making a table to appease his wife, the husband used one too many slats from the boat.
 
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  • #499
gmax137 said:
Don't forget Ilford. I used a lot of their film (35 and 120) and their paper, too. Up until a couple years ago. I may resurrect my darkroom someday. I moved and there's no good space in my new house.
Pretty much what happened for me. I moved to an apartment which had no place to set up a darkroom. The equipment just sat around taking up room and collecting dust until I sold it.
 
  • #500
Janus said:
until I sold it
From time to time I look up "darkroom" on the local selling websites. Sickeningly low prices for what once was expensive hardware (enlargers, grain focusers, timers, tanks, print washers...). I guess nobody is interested in buying that stuff anymore.

A quick look at the Beseler website shows they sell mostly to schools; apparently film and wet chemistry is still a good path to learning.

And still some amazing photographers out there using large format film. Take a look at Clyde Butcher's work in Florida.

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gmax137 said:
A quick look at the Beseler website shows they sell mostly to schools; apparently film and wet chemistry is still a good path to learning.
My daughter took a photography class in High School (she graduated in "06), and they used film and wet chemistry. From that, she went on to be a photographer for the school paper.
 
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  • #502
I've spent a good part of the day cleaning up a lot of the things I've shown. It's amazing how much grit and grim can build up on stuff. :oldcry:
 
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  • #503
We have forgotten that dust sheets were once used to protect things.
A bed sheet is a low-cost investment to protect a static display from dust.
Dust sheets work well for machine tools and optical instruments.
If dust is critical to operation, use white sheets that will show the dust, then wash them regularly.
If it is just for a display, pick a nice pattern that will not show the dust.
 
  • #504
dlgoff said:
It's amazing how much grit and grim can build up on stuff.
Once restored, things don't stay restored by themselves. Yes, that can be frustrating.

Try living on a boat in salt water. Everything deteriorates rapidly, unless you constantly renew renew renew. Even then, after a while the crew deteriorates.
 
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anorlunda said:
Once restored, things don't stay restored by themselves. Yes, that can be frustrating.

Try living on a boat in salt water. Everything deteriorates rapidly, unless you constantly renew renew renew. Even then, after a while the crew deteriorates.
I'm learning. Glad my stuff isn't on your boat.
 
  • #506
dlgoff said:
I've spent a good part of the day cleaning up a lot of the things I've shown. It's amazing how much grit and grim can build up on stuff. :oldcry:
Well, I've managed to get the top shelf cleaned up.
clean-up.jpg

Now for the rest of the stuff. :doh:

Also, one of my neon sign transformers died so I waiting for one I bought on ebay.
 
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  • #507
What a classic collection! It reminds me of the Disney Flubber movies of the 1950’s with Fred MacMurray And his lab.
 
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  • #508
jedishrfu said:
Disney Flubber
I remember it like it was yesterday. Very cool, funny movie.
 
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  • #509
dlgoff said:
Also, one of my neon sign transformers died so I waiting for one I bought on ebay.
I've received the so called modern "high voltage neon sign transformer", but it'll be a while before I get a chance to rewire the display which it lights up. Will post a photo when I get it done.
 
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  • #510
dlgoff said:
I remember it like it was yesterday. Very cool, funny movie.
How can you not like Fred McMurray. The Absent Minded Professor
In the photo left of center is an glass sphere with a black box attached that looks suspiciously similar to my "plasma ball" from a later era. Said plasma sphere is a small tesla coil inside a low pressure He (maybe He-Ne) filled glass sphere which makes very nice coronal discharges. What is it?
I have one old piece of electronics: a 1921 Grebe AR-9 tabletop radio which I keep threatening to make workable (Type 201-A tubes), big barrel inductor and variable interleaved capacitor. It is amazing to look at.
 
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