Beijing Television Cultural Center Fire

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The Great Beijing Mandarin Oriental Hotel fire in February 2009 raised questions about why the building did not collapse despite burning for five hours. Key points in the discussion highlight that the building's design incorporated significant safety factors, which are crucial in construction to prevent collapse during fires. The fire's intensity was likely insufficient to weaken the steel structure, as common construction materials like wood and paper do not burn hot enough to reach critical temperatures that would cause steel to fail. Additionally, the building was still under construction, meaning it was lighter than it would have been when completed, further reducing collapse risks. The presence of flammable construction debris contributed to the fire's spread, but the materials used in the building's construction played a vital role in its structural integrity during the incident.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Beijing_Mandarin_Oriental_Hotel_fire_of_February,_2009

Can anyone explain to me why didn't this building collapse on itself after burning for 5 hours? I thought the steel would have weakened enough to allow some kind of total or partial collapse. This building was still under construction and had no working sprinkler system.

The Chinese engineers that designed and built this thing are amazing! What kind of materials did they use? I always believed fire brought down large structures.

Sorry if this was discussed before. I was searching through your forums and didn't find any mention of it.
 
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Because in most cases, burning does not cause buildings to collapse, at least that's what I saw in a documentary on discovery channel or natgeo.

In all engineering constructions there are safety factors, when human lives are at risk, these safety factors are very large. I'm guessing, the structure was built with these safety factors in place so that the building doesn't collapse during a fire. Steel melts at around 1300°C and house fires with fuels involved reach about 650°C.
 
More importantly, how did a fire start from the outside? Since when does glass and metal catch fire so easily?
 
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Three things:
1. The fuels for the fire would have been wood, paper products, and other construction debris. These things don't burn hot enough to risk significant weakening of the structure.
2. As the building was not completed, it is quite possible the building was not as heavy as it would have been in a few months, which would lower the risk of collapse.
3. As the building was under construction, the roof (and rest of the building) was probably covered with flammable construction materials/debris, making it an easy fire to start/spread.
 
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