Bending Moment Formula: Understanding Its Relationship to Pure Bending

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the bending moment formula and its relationship to pure bending, focusing on theoretical and practical aspects related to beam deflection in physics assignments. Participants explore the derivation of formulas and the application of concepts in specific scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for the bending moment formula and its relation to pure bending, suggesting a formula 1/p = M/EI.
  • Another participant mentions that the bending moment formula depends on the physical setup and forces acting on a beam section.
  • A participant describes their experiment with a rectangular plywood beam, noting that dimensions change due to varying experimental variables.
  • There is a request for clarification on how the dimensions change to facilitate further assistance.
  • A participant attempts to derive a specific formula related to beam deflection, indicating that it involves integration and the combination of bending moment and torque formulas.
  • Another participant reiterates the need to specify boundary and loading conditions when starting with the Euler-Bernoulli Beam equation.
  • A participant provides a formula for beam rotation in relation to the bending moment, confirming the relationship to the pure bending formula.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the bending moment formula and its derivation, with no consensus reached on the specific relationships or methods to be used. Multiple competing views and approaches remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific formulas and derivations without fully resolving the assumptions or conditions under which these apply. The discussion includes various interpretations of the bending moment and pure bending concepts.

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Homework Statement


what is the bending moment formula? is it related to the pure bending formula? what's that?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


is the formula 1/p=M/EI?
 
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There's a particular physical setup associated with the bending moment of a small section dx of a beam under gravity. The formula would depend on how you setup and balance the forces and torque on that section. Perhaps if you describe it, the homework helpers here could help you figure it out.
 
i am finding the bending moment of a rectangular beam of plywood. the dimensions change due to altering the variables throughout the experiment.
 
Yes, but how do they change? You have to be more explicit here, otherwise I don't think anyone can help. Try posting the question from the textbook or notes.
 
its not a question it is a part of a physics assignment of beam deflection.. i am trying to show for the formula (force x length^3)/(4 x young’s modulus x breadth x thickness^3) was derived. i know it was done through integration and the combining of the bending moment formula and the Torque formula (T=fr)...
 
Amy54 said:
its not a question it is a part of a physics assignment of beam deflection.. i am trying to show for the formula (force x length^3)/(4 x young’s modulus x breadth x thickness^3) was derived. i know it was done through integration and the combining of the bending moment formula and the Torque formula (T=fr)...

Suppose we have the situation in the picture.

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We get:

EIv_{xx} = -FL+Fx

or after two integrations:

EIv(x) =F \frac{(x-L)^3}{6} +C_1x +C_2

From this point on I leave it to you...
 
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Amy54 said:

Homework Statement


what is the bending moment formula? is it related to the pure bending formula? what's that?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


is the formula 1/p=M/EI?

Start with the Euler-Bernoulli Beam equation, and specifiy your boundary and loading conditions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler-Bernoulli_beam_equation

CS
 
Amy54 wrote:[/color] "What is the bending moment formula?"

d(theta)/dx = M(x)/(E*I), where theta = beam rotation, and M(x) = moment as a function of x.

Amy54 wrote:[/color] "Is it related to the pure bending formula? What's that? Is the formula 1/rho = M/(E*I)?"

Nice work, Amy54. Yes, that is the pure bending formula. For small theta, d(theta)/dx = 1/rho.
 

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