Bernie Sanders Running for President

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No idea. I'm not sure Sanders really has a solid foreign policy, I like him for his domestic policy. What was the name of the agreement?
I've found this treaty:
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/210528.pdf (EN)
http://isap.sejm.gov.pl/DetailsServlet?id=WDU19940970467 (PL)

Additional protocol:
http://isap.sejm.gov.pl/Download?id=WDU20050030014&type=2 (bilingual version)

I perceived Americans as those who popularized such investment protection treaties, so I look a bit puzzled when they are unhappy about them... ;)

(Our foreign affairs ministry mentions that already signed regulations concerning investment protection in US-Polish relationship are broader than the ones from TIPP, so no big problem...)
 
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I perceived Americans as those who popularized such investment protection treaties, so I look a bit puzzled when they are unhappy about them... ;)
There's more than one kind of american, and more than one kind of american politician. Some of them look after the interests of the globalized corporations, some tend more towards populist interests. I'm willing to bet the majority of Americans don't even know about these trade agreements and the few that had a hand in generating and executing them had something to gain from favoring corporate interests.
 
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How is that Poland was forced into this agreement, i.e. "Americans made my country to already sign ..."?
Such agreements were not something that my gov would seek, as there generally speaking little Polish investment in USA, in comparison to US investment in Poland, so the purpose was to protect US investment, not the other way round. Moreover, as far as I know executive power and civil servants in my country they are really reluctant to give up any of their power (including power to shock everyone with new, retrospectively working, interpretation of already existing laws ;) ). So I really think that it must have been the American side who insisted on that.
 
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Americans insisted? If they also said, "I want to buy your women, your daughters", would the Poles have been obliged to hand them over?

 
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Americans insisted? If they also said, "I want to buy your women, your daughters", would the Poles have been obliged to hand them over?

Dunno. So far from far reaching requests Americans asked us to send our troops to Iraq and to let them torture some terrorist on Polish soil. Both request were granted, for the second one we were fined by ECJ, as technically speaking those tortures were illegal under some EU laws.
Maybe you would settle on something lesser than buying our women and daughters? We have a few female members of parliament, that I would be willing to trade with Americans...

My offers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Grodzka
(would be provided with documents proving that is a woman)
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krystyna_Pawłowicz
(would be provided with documents proving that is a professor, from her behaviour and manners you would not guess that)

And more seriously - the US is able to extract some concessions from smaller countries, especially when those smaller countries need the US. At the moment of signing that deal we needed Americans for accepting restructuring our debt from communist times and protection against Russians, so were not in specially good negotiation position. Request did not sound as excessive so was granted.
 
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Larry David as Bernie Sanders on Saturday Night Live:


I don’t have a super PAC. I don’t even have a backpack. I own one pair of underwear. That’s it. Some of these billionaires have three, four pairs.
 
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Sooo, a little late, but how about them caucus results? For all of those people who (in this thread) said "He can't win", "I wish he had a shot", etc. (paraphrasing) I think this definitely shows that he CAN win, and DOES have a shot, to say the least.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/01/us/iowa-caucus-democratic-precinct-results.html?_r=0
Well... no so fast. Iowa is rich white people, so is New Hampshire. This demographic has never been a challenge to Bernie. Does he have a chance? I still don't know until I see how he does past the first two. Obviously, the first two primary states can establish electibility, which is what Sanders needs, and that's a positive outcome. I'm still afraid that the establishment candidate has a lot of unfair (and probably undemocratic) advantages.
 
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Only time will tell, indeed.
 
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USA Today, Des Moines Register - Iowa margin between Clinton, Sanders shifts as errors found
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...clinton-sanders-shifts-errors-found/79889298/
The final tally the state party announced Tuesday — before the latest changes were made — showed a difference of 3.77 state delegate equivalents:

Clinton: 700.59 state delegate equivalents
Sanders: 696.82 state delegate equivalents
 
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Yeah. Not very exciting though. I think they called it about 5 minutes after the polls closed. Watching the results come in in Iowa was way more exciting. It'll be interested to see what happens in the south.
 
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Personally I'm already exhausted by this race. I wish it'd be over already.
 
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I suppose it's not really exciting, but it is satisfying.
 
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I don't know, NH was already his in my mind - the demographics were surprising, but that's New Hampshire. Clinton still holds the vast majority of superdelegate pledges, unfortunately. Sanders will have to do good in the next couple to stand a chance.
 
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Clinton still holds the vast majority of superdelegate pledges
I noticed the superdelegates amassed by Clinton. Can superdelegates change their votes?
 
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I noticed the superdelegates amassed by Clinton. Can superdelegates change their votes?
Yes.
 
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Let's start a fresh thread Clinton vs Sanders.
 

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