Bernoulli to explain Magnus Effect

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The discussion centers on the misconception that Bernoulli's equation explains the Magnus Effect, with participants arguing that the effect is primarily due to circulation rather than pressure differences calculated by Bernoulli. It is emphasized that Bernoulli's principle has limitations, only applying to inviscid and incompressible flows along a streamline. The pressure difference associated with the Magnus Effect arises from circulation, not from the velocity differences described by Bernoulli. Additionally, references to Newton's Third Law are highlighted as providing a more intuitive understanding of the effect through air friction. Overall, the consensus is that Bernoulli's equation is not the correct framework for explaining the Magnus Effect.
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Hi

I have been reading some internet articles that state the Bernoulli equation does NOT explain the Magnus Effect. The articles state that the effect is due to circulation (Bernoulli requires inviscid flows)

Could someone explain the cause of the Magnus effect without reference Bernoulli's equation?

In other words, I pieced this together from reading... If this is true, could someone elaborate and then explain the cause of the effect?Many attribute the effect to Bernoulli’s equation wherein fast moving fluid. However, Bernoulli’s principle doesn’t cause anything. It is a calculation scheme. It let's one calculate the pressure when you know the velocity. It has restrictions in its use. It is only valid along a streamline. It is only valid for inviscid flow (fluid with zero viscosity). It is only valid for incompressible flow (constant density fluid).The Bernoulli argument is somehow flawed because the velocity difference does not lead to pressure difference, it is the circulation that leads to pressure difference. Bernoulli principle always assumes no viscosity and vorticity.
 
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kuruman said:
Did you see this wikipedia article?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_effect
There is no mention of Bernoulli, just Newton's Third law which gives an intuitive explanation in terms of air friction.
Normally, I check wiki. this time, I did not. Thank you!
 

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