Bessel function series expansion

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The discussion revolves around Bessel's equation, specifically the case where \( p^2 = \frac{1}{4} \). Participants are tasked with showing that \( J_{1/2}(0) = 0 \) and exploring the implications of the series solutions expressed in terms of elementary functions, \( J_{1/2} \) and \( J_{-1/2} \).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the behavior of \( J_{1/2} \) and \( J_{-1/2} \) as \( z \) approaches 0, questioning how to conclude that \( J_{1/2}(0) = 0 \). There are attempts to compare the order of growth of \( \sin z \) and \( \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi z}} \) near zero. Some participants express confusion about the meaning of 'order' and how to apply Big-O notation in this context.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the limits and behaviors of the functions involved, with some participants suggesting methods such as L'Hospital's rule to analyze continuity and limits. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, and while some guidance has been offered, there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of singularities and continuity in the context of Bessel functions, with specific attention to the definitions and behaviors of these functions at \( z = 0 \). There are references to homework constraints and the need to show certain properties without providing complete solutions.

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Homework Statement



This is the how the question begins.

1. Bessel's equation is z^{2}\frac{d^{2}y}{dz^{2}} + z\frac{dy}{dz} + \left(z^{2}- p^{2}\right)y = 0.

For the case p^{2} = \frac{1}{4}, the equation has two series solutions which (unusually) may be expressed in terms of elementary functions:

J_{1/2} = \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} sin z
J_{-1/2} = \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} cos z

[ The factors \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} are supefluous, but are included by convention, for reasons that are not relevant to the present purposes.]

Clearly J_{-1/2} is singular at z = 0. Show that J_{1/2}(0) = 0.

2......(for later)

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I am going to assume the solutions J_{1/2} and J_{-1/2} without worrying about why/how they come about.

Obviously, when z = 0, cos z \neq 0. Therefore, \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} blows up and J_{-1/2} is singular at z = 0.

On the other hand, if we draw separately the graphs of \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} and sin z and then combine the two in a single graph of J_{1/2}, we find that it is sinusoidal with an amplitude given by \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2}. This means that the curve oscillates as it moves towards z = 0 with an amplitude that tends to infinity as z tends to 0. How do I conclude from this that J_{1/2}(0) = 0.
 
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Compare the order to which \sin z vanishes at 0 to the order of growth of \sqrt{2/(\pi z)} at 0. From that you should be able to prove an estimate of the form J_{1/2}(z) = O(f(z)) as z \to 0 for an appropriately chosen bound f.
 
Thanks for your help!

I don't understand what 'order' means in this context.
How do we compare the orders?

"an estimate of the form J_{1/2}(z) = O(f(z)) as z \to 0 for an appropriately chosen bound f.": I don't understand!
 
"Order" is short for "order of growth", which means a simple function (usually a power, log, or exponential function or simple combination of those functions) which you can use to "measure" the speed with which a given function vanishes or grows near a point. These orders are measured up to a constant factor.

For example, \csc x grows like 1/x as x \to 0, that is, you can choose positive constants c, C so that c|x^{-1}| < |\csc x| < C|x^{-1}| for x close enough to zero. One common way to try to find an order of growth for a function is to expand it in a Taylor or Laurent series.

For the meaning of O(f(z)) look here: Wikipedia article on Big-O notation Using this notation you could express the example above as \csc x = \Theta(1/x) as x \to 0.

The point of my hint is that, to prove that J_{1/2}(0) = 0, you should examine the orders of growth near zero of the functions whose product is J_{1/2}, to prove that the product can be estimated by a function you know vanishes at 0.
 
I will have a think about this method while we move on to the next part of the question.

2. By means of the substitution z = kx, show that J_{1/2}(kx) and J_{-1/2}(kx) are solutions of the following equations:

x^{2}\frac{d^{2}y}{dx^{2}} + x\frac{dy}{dx} + \left(k^{2}x^{2} - p^{2}\right)y = 0.

3. Show that this equation, subject to boundary conditions y(0) = 0, y(1) = 0, has eigenvalues k = n\pi, n = 1,2,3... and eigenfunctions y_{n} = J_{1/2}(n\pi x).

I am fine with 2, but din't know how to begin 3.
 
Try performing the limit calculation for a nore solid answer: show that \lim_{z\rightarrow 0} \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} \sin z=1
 
\lim_{z\rightarrow 0} \left(\frac{\sin z}{z}\right)=1, so
\lim_{z\rightarrow 0} \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} (\left \sin z \right)
= \lim_{z\rightarrow 0} \left(\frac{2z}{\pi}\right)^{1/2}\left(\frac{\sin z}{z}\right)
= \lim_{z\rightarrow 0} \left(\frac{2z}{\pi}\right)^{1/2} \lim_{z\rightarrow 0} \left(\frac{\sin z}{z}\right)

The first limit is 0 and the second is 1, so the final answer is 0: a contradiction!

Thoughts?
 
hasan_researc said:
Show that J_{1/2}(0) = 0.

2......(for later)

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The Attempt at a Solution



I am going to assume the solutions J_{1/2} and J_{-1/2} without worrying about why/how they come about.

Obviously, when z = 0, cos z \neq 0. Therefore, \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} blows up and J_{-1/2} is singular at z = 0.

On the other hand, if we draw separately the graphs of \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2} and sin z and then combine the two in a single graph of J_{1/2}, we find that it is sinusoidal with an amplitude given by \left(\frac{2}{\pi z}\right)^{1/2}. This means that the curve oscillates as it moves towards z = 0 with an amplitude that tends to infinity as z tends to 0. How do I conclude from this that J_{1/2}(0) = 0.

The function:

J_{1/2}(z)=\sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi z}}\sin(z)

is undefined at z=0. However, it's limit there is zero by L'Hospital's rule so that if we explicitly define:

J_{1/2}(z)=\begin{cases} \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi z}}\sin(z) &amp; z&gt;0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; z=0<br /> \end{cases}<br />

then J_{1/2}(z) becomes continuous for real z greater than or equal to zero.

and that thing about drawing separate graphs is not correct. If you plot the function, you should get a sinusoidal wave for positive real z.
 
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