Best Graphing Calculators for Pre-Calculus & SAT/ACT

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the best graphing calculators suitable for pre-calculus and standardized tests like the SAT and ACT. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding various models, their functionalities, and their appropriateness for different academic levels.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that graphing calculators from TI, Casio, and HP without QWERTY keyboards are generally allowed on the SATs.
  • Warren mentions that a very capable calculator is not necessary for pre-calculus or the SAT, as the latter primarily tests arithmetic, algebra, and geometry.
  • Several participants note that the TI-83 and TI-84 series are commonly used and sufficient for pre-calculus, with the TI-89 being recommended for more advanced courses due to its CAS capabilities.
  • Some argue that while advanced calculators like the TI-89 can be helpful for checking homework, they may not be allowed in all college exams.
  • There are differing opinions on the necessity of high-end calculators, with some stating that basic scientific calculators can suffice for many college courses.
  • Participants express varying views on the importance of mastering calculator features, with some emphasizing the need to understand the tools fully to benefit from them.
  • There is mention of the TI-NSpire CAS, with questions about its capabilities compared to older models.
  • Some participants advocate for simpler models like the TI-30Xa for basic needs, while others prefer more advanced options for their additional features.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best calculator, with multiple competing views on the necessity and functionality of various models. The discussion reflects a range of opinions on what is appropriate for pre-calculus and standardized testing.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight that the acceptance of calculators can vary by school, professor, and specific tests, indicating that there are no universal standards.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students taking pre-calculus or preparing for the SAT/ACT, as well as educators seeking insights into calculator preferences and usage in academic settings.

  • #31
^although on a quantum test where you have to do integrals of the type xsin^2x and others 5 times in a problem having a calculator to help you power through can be very usefulfor anything below calc a graphing calculator is silly, you should know the behavior of a graph and how it transforms from prior knowledge, I used to keep a couple points of parabolic graphs and such memorized so that I could graph them by hand faster.

and if you know 4 points of y=x^2 you can graph any other parabolic functions very quickly
 
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  • #32
That's interesting you say that CPL.Luke, my high school pretty much requires a graphing calculator for what is called Integrated I-III (Algebra + Geometry, not really needed for I-II but for III it is helpful) + Pre-Calc + Calc. For students who can't afford them they can rent them from the school and if they are returned at the end of the year they get their money back. I always figured other schools were pretty much the same way but apparently not. I think maybe it is due to some effort to get technology in the classroom or something.
 
  • #33
I have refused to use any calculator but the EL-510R for 5 years. I have collected hundreds of them in the fear they will stop being made.
 
  • #34
I use the ti- 89 titanium. very good calculator, but not necessary for a precalculus course. If you're buying one get this it will come in handy and if I'm not mistaking it can be used on sat and ap calculus, better check though. try to avoid excessive calculator use.
 
  • #35
My suggestion is, if you have the self-control, have a TI-89, as it will serve you well throughout your years. But you CANNOT solve problems with it: use it to check your work, or for questions that might require a graphing calculator or for 38.2*291.203, but it should otherwise NEVER be part of your first solution. It's a great tool to check, but it becomes a terrible crutch if abused.
 
  • #36
My suggestion is, if you have the self-control, have a TI-89, as it will serve you well throughout your years. But you CANNOT solve problems with it: use it to check your work, or for questions that might require a graphing calculator or for 38.2*291.203, but it should otherwise NEVER be part of your first solution. It's a great tool to check, but it becomes a terrible crutch if abused.

This is good advice.

I would add that your first calculus class should teach you how to graph any function on paper without the help of a calculator. This is vital because later in your academic life you'll be confronted by equations that do not behave nicely with the resolution and "default fit" window sizes of the TI. You can get into a situation where looking at the graph of a function with 4 different step sizes or windows gives you four different graphs and you have no idea which is the correct one.

Another bad habit that dependence on any calculator can get you into is the "plug and chug" approach. It is usually always a good practice to solve equations algebraically with symbolic variables and only substitute values into the equation when you have it in the simplest form and hopefully solved explicitly for your unknown. Falling into the habit of immediately punching numbers into the TI when confronted with a problem will make life very hard on yourself. For very long problems you can also accumulate a round-off error that throws your answer off.

Also, in the case that you use it for "38.2*291.203" don't fall in love with the false precision of the calculator. If you have measurements that are precise to three significant figures, and perform some calculation with them, your TI might tell you that the answer is 11,123.9546. The answer is wrong because it says you know something to 9 significant figures of precision. The problem is that one of the measurements you answer relies upon is only accurate to three significant figures. Your answer is always limited by the significant figures of your measurements. In the case of "38.2*291.203" the answer is limited to three significant figures, or 11,100.

Don't worry too much about any of this right now. Chances are that at your level all the equations you will be given will behave nicely and your teachers don't care about significant figures or accumulated round-off error.

Just know that calculators are very good at crunching numbers but are very bad at thinking. You have to do that part. The students who use the TI's as a crutch so they don't have to think pay dearly for that attitude later in life.
 
  • #37
I am taking the act and I want a good priced (not too expensive) calculator. What are some suggestions? I have TI34II and TI 30X.Both are ok relatively.(i don't use calculators much) I don't need one that graphs and all those special functions.HELP ME!
 
  • #38
If you're looking for a calculator comparable to the TI-89, you should also consider the HP 50g. Both calculators have their advantages, but after researching them I decided to buy the 50g. There used to be a huge thread somewhere on PF debating which one is better. To me it seems like the 50g is a lot more customizable but has a harder learning curve. If you intend to use the calculator for several years (not just for a few calculus classes) then it might be worth it to learn how to use the 50g, but both are praised by their long time users as excellent calculators. If you're looking for the safe option, I'd go with the Ti-89 because its easy to learn and more popular so most teachers/other students will be able to help you.

Edit: just noticed that the OP started this thread in January, and that response was meant for him. For taking the ACT you don't even need a calculator at all (assuming the ACTs are just like the SATs). I wouldn't buy one for the ACTs unless the ones you have aren't capable of adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing.
 
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