Best introductory books on the mathematics of relativity?

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The discussion centers around recommendations for introductory books on the mathematics of general relativity (GR), with some participants suggesting resources for special relativity (SR) as a precursor. The scope includes self-study materials suitable for high school students and the necessary mathematical background for understanding these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a self-study book accessible to a high school student for GR, mentioning "A Most Incomprehensible Thing" but noting its unavailability in India.
  • Another participant emphasizes the necessity of understanding calculus of several variables and linear algebra before tackling the mathematics of GR, suggesting that the mathematical foundations of GR are easier than those of quantum mechanics (QM) and quantum field theory (QFT).
  • Several participants recommend starting with SR, citing resources like Einstein Online and Einstein's own book on special relativity, which is considered more accessible.
  • One participant mentions "The Mathematical Theory of Relativity" by Arthur Eddington as a preferred resource for understanding relativity.
  • Another participant suggests "Introduction To Special Relativity" by Rindler, highlighting its foundational approach to the theory.
  • There is a suggestion to consider "Spacetime Physics" by Taylor and Wheeler for special relativity, along with a discussion on the different interpretations of mass in relativity.
  • One participant challenges the assumption that the original poster (OP) lacks knowledge of special relativity, asserting that GR can be learned in high school and referencing books like Hartle and Schutz as accessible options.
  • A list of mathematical resources is provided for studying the mathematics of GR, including calculus, linear algebra, and differential geometry texts.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of studying GR at the high school level, with some advocating for it while others question its feasibility. There is no consensus on the best approach or resources, as multiple competing views and recommendations are presented.

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Participants note the importance of prior mathematical knowledge, but specific assumptions about the OP's background remain unclear. The discussion includes various interpretations of mass in relativity, which may affect the understanding of related formulas.

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I was looking for a self-study book that is accessible by an high-school student (11th grade) for general relativity. I read reviews on "A Most Incomprehensible Thing: Notes Towards a Very Gentle Introduction to the Mathematics of Relativity" but unfortunately, it isn't available here, in India. Ready to work out the problems. It would be better if all the topics required were in one book (like the book I mentioned above).
 
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Without knowing how much math you already know, it's nigh impossible to recommend anything. You should at least know calculus of several variables (including vector calculus) and linear algebra before wandering into the mathematics of GR. That isn't to say that the mathematics of GR is hard mind you; in fact the mathematical foundations of GR are very, very easy compared to those of other physical theories such as QM and QFT. But you should know calculus of several variables and linear algebra in order to start making sense of these mathematical foundations in the first place.
 
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How about trying for special relativity first.

That is far more mathematically accessible and you can start with Einstein Online. Einstein's book on special relativity math is available free...and accessible to most high school students.

It's RELATIVITY, The Special and the General Theory, and has the math of special but not general relativity.

The mathematics of special relativity in flat spacetime, with acceleration but without gravity, serves as an almost required introduction to that of the curved spacetime and gravity of general relativity.
 
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My fsavorite for Special Relativity is Rindler - Introduction To Special Relativity:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198539525/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Here you will find its correct basis - symmetry - the speed of light thing is just fixing a constant that naturally occurs in the theory.

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Bill
 
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Naty1 said:
How about trying for special relativity first.

As an ignorant in the field, I believe this is a very wise suggestion.
How about "Spacetime Physics", by Taylor and Wheeler?

Also, talking about special relativity, I believe the young student should be made aware that there are basically two approaches that will produce different formulas according to what is meant by "m". In the past, introductory treatments used 'relativistic mass' and 'rest mass' (French and Rindler use this approach, for example). Nowadays it is more common to just use 'invariant mass', or simply 'mass'. Many formulae, and most notably E=mc^2, can have different meanings according to what is meant by m. Caveat emptor.


General relativity in high school? Isn't that a bit too much?
 
I don't get why everyone is assuming that the OP doesn't already know SR. More importantly, the OP was asking about books on the mathematics of GR and not GR itself so SR is irrelevant here.

SredniVashtar said:
General relativity in high school? Isn't that a bit too much?

I started learning it in high school; I don't think it's "a bit too much" in the slightest. Books like Hartle and Schutz barely assume anything with regards to the background of the reader.
 
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If you want to study the mathematics of GR (and perhaps not GR or SR itself), then here's a good list of books:

Calc 3:
Lang's Calculus on Several Variables: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387964053/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Spivak's calculus on manifolds: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805390219/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Linear algebra:
Linear algebra done wrong: www.math.brown.edu/~treil/papers/LADW/book.pdf‎
Lang's Linear algebra: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805390219/?tag=pfamazon01-20
or less advanced, but still good: Lang's introduction to LA: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387962050/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Elementary differential geometry:
Pressley: https://www.amazon.com/dp/184882890X/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Do Carmo: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0132125897/?tag=pfamazon01-20
or a very nice introduction with forms by O'Neill: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0120887355/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Modern Differential Geometry with Manifolds:
Lee's three books:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1461427908/?tag=pfamazon01-20 (this is more an introduction to topology, but this is still part of the math of relatvity)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1441999817/?tag=pfamazon01-20 (The very best intro book on smooth manifolds and differential topology)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387983228/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0125267401/?tag=pfamazon01-20 (must read if you're into relativity, but it's best to do the previous books first)
 
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