Best speed reducer for a simple project (gearbox design choice)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design choices for a simple gearbox intended for a pan/tilt mechanism, focusing on achieving a gear ratio of approximately 20:1. Participants explore two preliminary designs: one utilizing a worm gear and the other employing a train of five spur gears. The application requires specific output torque and speed parameters.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests performing a tolerance stackup calculation to ensure the gearbox can be assembled with realistic part dimensions.
  • Another point raised is the need to calculate total backlash with realistic worst-case part dimensions and compare it to the maximum acceptable backlash.
  • Concerns about whether the manufacturing cost includes assembly labor are also mentioned.
  • A participant notes that worm gears are generally suitable for 20:1 ratios, while a train of spur gears may incur larger losses and be less reliable.
  • There is a suggestion to consider comparing worm gears with epicyclic gears if the budget allows for five gears, as many stepper motor reduction gears are epicyclic.
  • Packaging constraints are highlighted, indicating that worm gears typically operate at right angles to the axis, while spur gears or epicyclic trains can maintain parallel input and output axes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the suitability of worm gears versus spur gears, with some favoring worm gears for reliability and others raising concerns about efficiency and design constraints. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which gearbox design is definitively better.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best gearbox design, and there are considerations regarding tolerances, backlash, and packaging constraints that may affect the final decision.

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I'm building a pan/tilt mechanism with a small stepper motor, and I need to design a simple 3d printable gearbox with a 20:1 ratio (aprox)
Hi,

As the summary says, I'm trying to design a simple gearbox with an approximate ratio of 20:1. I have two preliminary designs, one using a worm gear and another using a train of 5 spur gears. Both designs give me the desired ratio, but I really don't know which one I should choose.

The application requires an output torque of around 5kg/cm, and a maximum speed of 0.5RPM.

Both designs are pretty much the same in terms of manufacturing cost.

Coud you please suggest which option is better and explain why?

Thanks
 
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Some things to consider when making this decision:

1) Do a tolerance stackup calculation to make sure that it can be assembled and will work with realistic worst case part dimensions.

2) After #1 above, calculate the total backlash with realistic worst case part dimensions. Compare to the maximum acceptable backlash. You did calculate allowable backlash, didn't you?

3) Does the manufacturing cost include assembly labor?
 
awer said:
Summary: I'm building a pan/tilt mechanism with a small stepper motor, and I need to design a simple 3d printable gearbox with a 20:1 ratio (aprox)

Hi,

As the summary says, I'm trying to design a simple gearbox with an approximate ratio of 20:1. I have two preliminary designs, one using a worm gear and another using a train of 5 spur gears. Both designs give me the desired ratio, but I really don't know which one I should choose.

The application requires an output torque of around 5kg/cm, and a maximum speed of 0.5RPM.

Both designs are pretty much the same in terms of manufacturing cost.

Coud you please suggest which option is better and explain why?

Thanks
Generally, worm gear is fine for 20:1 ratios. Train of 5 spur gears would have larger loss and will be less reliable.

P.S. If you have a budget for 5 gears, may be better to consider a comparison between worm gear and epicyclic gear. Most of stepper motor reduction gears are epicyclic.
 
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The packaging constraints also enter into the picture. A worm is typically at right angles to the axis of the gear, whereas either a compound gear train on fixes axes or a compound epicyclic train have parallel input and output axes.
 

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