Beta function and changing variables

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral \(\int_{0}^{3}\sqrt[3]{\frac{3-x}{x^2}}\: \mathrm{d}x\) and its relation to the Beta function. Participants are exploring the implications of changing variables and the properties of the Beta function in the context of this integral.

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  • Participants discuss changing the limits of integration and the variable substitution \(x = 3u\). There are attempts to identify the correct arguments for the Beta function and to verify results using Mathematica. Some participants question the correctness of their variable changes and the outputs from Mathematica.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and results. There is no explicit consensus on the correct evaluation of the integral, but some productive insights regarding the properties of the Beta function and numerical comparisons have been shared.

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Participants note potential issues with Mathematica's output and the need for careful verification of results. There is also mention of a new integral involving parameters \(b > 2\) and \(a > 0\), which adds complexity to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


\int_{0}^{3}\sqrt[3]{\frac{3-x}{x^2}}\: \mathrm{d}x

2. The attempt at a solution
I'm pretty sure I have to use Euler's Beta function, so I tried to change the limits to 0 and 1 by setting x = 3·u (so dx = 3·du). However there must be some mistake when I did it because I checked and I did it wrong:
\int_{0}^{3}\sqrt[3]{\frac{3-x}{x^2}}\: \mathrm{d}x=\int_{0}^{1}\sqrt[3]{\frac{3-3u}{(3u)^2}}\: 3\cdot\mathrm{d}u=3^{\frac{2}{3}}\cdot\beta\left(\frac{1}{3},\frac{4}{3}\right)

Thanks a lot for your help.
 
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Hmm then what should be the correct answer. Because, unless I am still asleep, both your change of variables and your identifying the arguments of the beta function are quite all right. I even got the same prefactor with a 2/3 exponent.
 
Well, Mathematica says:
\int_{0}^{3}\sqrt[3]{\frac{3-x}{x^2}}\: \mathrm{d}x=\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^{\frac{2}{3}}\cdot\beta\left(\frac{1}{3},\frac{1}{2}\right)
 
But when I evaluate both numerically, I get the same answer up to 4*$MachineEpsilon.

Code:
Beta[1/3, 4/3] == (1/2)^(2/3) Beta[1/3, 1/2] // FullSimplify
gives True.

So probably there is some property of the Beta function (which can most likely be derived from the Gamma function) which you need to show.
 
OK thanks I think Mathematica isn't using beta function though because in all my integrals when I try to check them I get a different output, which I can't get to even when I try FullSimplify[Beta[whatever, whatever]]. However after try the comparison I get true.
 
Just a general remark...

In my experience Mathematica sometimes does strange things with comparisons, and seen instances of
SomeExpression == DifferentExpression
giving True.

I suggest always FullSimplify'ing the difference betweeen your and Mathematica's answer
MyExpression - MathematicaResult // FullSimplify
and checking it gives zero.
 
Thanks, I'm just learning how to use Mathematica and I didn't know about that feature.

Now I'm stuck with the last integral in my problem sheet... this one I can't solve (b > 2 and a > 0).
\int_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\sqrt[3]{x}-\sqrt{x}}{x^b-a^b}\: \mathrm{d}x
I'm thinking that it's going to be a beta too (duh, it's the gamma-beta functions section of the problem set), so I should change that infinity to either 1 or pi/2.
Since changing it to pi/2 would imply having arctan in my integral (wouldn't it?) it doesn't look good. So I guess I need a 1... but I can't think of anything good there.
 
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