russ_watters
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General issues first:
act of war = illegal
not an act of war = legal
Whether an act is an act of war or not or legal or not, these two things are not directly related. Acts of war can be legal or illegal and legal or illgal acts may or may not be acts of war.
Yes, that's actually quite a good paraphrase of that position of mine, though I don't think I'd use the term "law enforcement operation". It is problematic...Count Iblis said:Russ more or less argued that Israel bombing an Iranian nuclear powerplant is a legal, sort of, law enforcement operation
I have said nothing of the sort and that is not my position....and that Iran would be the aggressor if they would retalliate.
Yes, and just so we're clear, whether they would doesn't have a whole lot to do with whether they should or whether it would be legal/just for them to do so.He actually argued that that Iran would not retalliate, so there would be no war.
It most certainly does not. Quite obviously, any airstrike by anyone, anywhere, is an act of war. But it seems to me that you are applying a type of logic that doesn't have any relevance and is, in any case, wrong:The fact that an Israeli attack would, in fact, be an act of war, eludes him.
act of war = illegal
not an act of war = legal
Whether an act is an act of war or not or legal or not, these two things are not directly related. Acts of war can be legal or illegal and legal or illgal acts may or may not be acts of war.
Perhaps...The fact that Syrian and Iraq in the past chose not to retalliate is besides the point. There are reasons why they didn't do that.
Perhaps...The case of Iran is diferent because you need quite a large scale bombing campaign.
Iraq's reactor was most certainly not secret! The French sold it to them openly!And unlike the Iraqi and Syrian rectors, the Iranian nuclear installations are not sectret...
That's true, but that doesn't imply that they or their leaders would want to go to war over it...and the iranian people are in support of the nuclear program.
The US has far greater capacity to respond than Iran does. If Iran went after Israel, it would be devastating to Iran and that is the main reason why Iran wouldn't do it. Iran isn't quite that suicidal.So, as far as Iran would be concerned, an attack on their nuclear installatons would be no different as how the US would regard an attack on US nuclear installations.
Iran is not the US and has nowhere near the capacity to respond as we do. I realize they value honor, but to attack Israel would be suicidal. The leadership of Iran would not risk their own lives over it.So, very hypothetically, if Kim were somehow to fire CMBs and take out some targets in the US, would Obama then say: "Well, that's bad news, but we are not going to do anything against it."![]()