Binomial distribution of coin tosses

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The discussion revolves around the binomial distribution related to a fair coin tossed 100 times, focusing on the probabilities of obtaining at least 60 heads and exactly 60 heads. Participants explore methods for approximating these probabilities, particularly in the context of an upcoming midterm exam.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants suggest approximating the binomial distribution with a normal distribution. There are discussions about the use of normal (z) tables and the potential for simplifying calculations by focusing on the largest terms in the distribution. Some participants question whether a symbolic approximation might suffice for the exam.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using normal approximations and calculating z-values, while others are considering the implications of not having access to certain tables during the exam.

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Participants note the constraints of the exam environment, specifically the lack of access to cumulative distribution tables and the need for approximations. There is also mention of the potential expectations from the instructor regarding the format of answers.

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Homework Statement


1. A fair coin is tossed 100 times.
(a) Find an approximate probability of getting at least 60 heads.

(b) Find an approximate probability of getting exactly 60 heads.

The Attempt at a Solution


part b) would be b(60;100,.5)

part a) we would need the table for the cumulative distribution, but this is a practice question for my midterm where I won't have access to the tables. Is there a way I can find this with the formula on the test?
 
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why don't you try approximating with a normal distribution
 
Will you have access to the normal (z) table? You could approximate this as a normal distribution.
Otherwise, I would look at ways to simplify. Since p=1-p=.5, your terms if you were going to write out the sum of p(60)+p(61) + ... +p(100) would all be 100 C k (.5)^100.
You will see that those terms shrink pretty quickly, so depending on how accurate you need your answer, you might be able to only use some of the largest terms--maybe the first 10 or so.
Last option, you could assume that cumulative prob of 50 is .5 +p(50)/2. Then find p(51 - 59). The remaining part is p(at least 60).
 
toothpaste666 said:

Homework Statement


1. A fair coin is tossed 100 times.
(a) Find an approximate probability of getting at least 60 heads.

(b) Find an approximate probability of getting exactly 60 heads.

The Attempt at a Solution


part b) would be b(60;100,.5)

part a) we would need the table for the cumulative distribution, but this is a practice question for my midterm where I won't have access to the tables. Is there a way I can find this with the formula on the test?

Perhaps the tester is looking for a convenient approximation in symbolic form, without necessarily needing a numerical answer. A normal approximation would be the way to go, and specifying correct "z-values" (maybe without being able to actually compute them) would get nearly full marks. Only you and your instructor can know for sure.
 
I will have access to the normal distribution table. For the normal approximation to the binomial distribution

Z = (X - np)/sqrt(np(1-p)) = (60 - 50)/sqrt(25) = 10/5 = 2

we want
1 - F(2)
looking at the standard normal table for
z = 2.00 we have F(z) = .9772
so the answer is
1 - .9772 = .0228
 

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