Biot-Savart current loop equation confusion?

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The discussion centers on the Biot-Savart law applied to a current loop, specifically addressing the magnetic field calculation at a point along the Z-axis. The user presents the differential magnetic field equation, dH, and expresses confusion regarding the contributions of the azimuthal and radial components. Key insights include the acknowledgment that H(rho) does not contribute to the total magnetic field and the suggestion to utilize LaTeX for clearer mathematical representation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of visual aids, such as sketches, to enhance understanding of the geometry involved.

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Hello,

I am having a bit of a problem with this classic example. I know about the symmetry but I would like to push through the math anyway. The field point is at distance Z from loop on Z axis. Using cylindrical coordinates I am at:

dH = I*(rho)d(phi)*a(phi) X (z*az - rho*a(rho)) / 4*pi*((rho)^2 + z^2))(3/2)

I know H(rho) doesn't contribute to total H. If I remove rho*a(rho) I have a cross product of az and a(phi) which is a(rho). I don't want to just jump to the numerator being i*(rho)^2*az or use trig substitutions so where is my mistake?
 
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neg_ion13 said:
Hello,

I am having a bit of a problem with this classic example. I know about the symmetry but I would like to push through the math anyway. The field point is at distance Z from loop on Z axis. Using cylindrical coordinates I am at:

dH = I*(rho)d(phi)*a(phi) X (z*az - rho*a(rho)) / 4*pi*((rho)^2 + z^2))(3/2)

I know H(rho) doesn't contribute to total H. If I remove rho*a(rho) I have a cross product of az and a(phi) which is a(rho). I don't want to just jump to the numerator being i*(rho)^2*az or use trig substitutions so where is my mistake?

Could you perhaps post a sketch of the geometry? I think I understand what you are asking, but I'm not sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot-savart

Also, if you can use Latex to post the equations, it makes it much more readable. There's a toturial on how to post using Latex in the Math & Science Learning Materials forum stickied at the top:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997

Or when you post in the Advanced Reply window, there is an equation editor button that looks like a capital sigma near the right of the tool buttons.
 

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