Biot-Savart equation for AC current

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Biot-Savart law in the context of alternating current (AC) flowing through a circular loop. Participants are exploring how the time-dependent nature of the current affects the magnetic field generated by the coil.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning the validity of taking the time-dependent current outside the integral in the Biot-Savart law. There are discussions about the applicability of the law for time-varying currents and considerations regarding the quasi-static approximation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions related to the quasi-static approximation and the implications of time-varying currents on the magnetic field. Some participants have provided guidance on the need for additional information from the original poster to clarify the problem further.

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Participants note that the frequency of the current is lower than 1 kHz, and the magnetic field calculation is specifically focused on the center of the coil along its central axis.

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Homework Statement
Considering to have a uniform sinusoidal current (in time) flowing in a circular loop, how does the sinusoidal nature of the current affects the magnetic field generated by the coil?
Relevant Equations
B(r) = (m0/4pi)integ(i*(dl*(x-l)/(x-l)^3))
The fact that the current changes in time should allow me to take it outside from the integral along the coil, since it is not a function of space. But I'm not sure about this assumption, is there something I'm missing or am i correct?
Thanks
 
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Biot-Savart is applicable at all times. If the current is time-dependent, you replace ##i## in the expression with ##i(t)##.
 
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Artemisia_ said:
Homework Statement:: Considering to have a uniform sinusoidal current (in time) flowing in a circular loop, how does the sinusoidal nature of the current affects the magnetic field generated by the coil?
Relevant Equations:: B(r) = (m0/4pi)integ(i*(dl*(x-l)/(x-l)^3))

The fact that the current changes in time should allow me to take it outside from the integral along the coil, since it is not a function of space. But I'm not sure about this assumption, is there something I'm missing or am i correct?
Thanks
kuruman said:
Biot-Savart is applicable at all times. If the current is time-dependent, you replace ##i## in the expression with ##i(t)##.
And there is the additional consideration of whether this is a circular loop antenna, radiating EM away from the near field equations to the far field EM propagation equations.

@Artemisia_ -- Please post much more information about this problem to keep us from going in circles trying to post helpful replies. Thanks.
 
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kuruman said:
Biot-Savart is applicable at all times. If the current is time-dependent, you replace ##i## in the expression with ##i(t)##.
I guess you mean this in the quasi static approximation (when we neglect the displacement current term in Maxwell's equations). Because in the full dynamic treatment a time varying current will create time varying magnetic field, which will create time varying electric field, which according to the displacement current term in the Maxwell's- Ampere's law will create additional magnetic field.
Biot-Savart law is equivalent to Ampere's law without the displacement current term.
 
Delta2 said:
I guess you mean this in the quasi static approximation (when we neglect the displacement current term in Maxwell's equations). Because in the full dynamic treatment a time varying current will create time varying magnetic field, which will create time varying electric field, which according to the displacement current term in the Maxwell's- Ampere's law will create additional magnetic field.
Biot-Savart law is equivalent to Ampere's law without the displacement current term.
Sure. This is an introductory level question and that is why I did not consider the displacement current. Nevertheless, we have to hear again from OP as @berkeman suggested.
 
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I think there is another reason why we should consider the quasi static approximation, the current in the loop is given as uniform, therefore according to an approximation we can make (can't reveal more since we wait to hear from OP) the far field (##\frac{1}{r}## term) is zero.
 
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berkeman said:
And there is the additional consideration of whether this is a circular loop antenna, radiating EM away from the near field equations to the far field EM propagation equations.

@Artemisia_ -- Please post much more information about this problem to keep us from going in circles trying to post helpful replies. Thanks.
Thank you all for the replies, i try to give here a bit more information, the frequency range is lower than 1KHz, so not extrememly high, and the magnetic field calculation i want to have it in the centre of the coil/along the central axis of the coil, so not in all the space.
 
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