Classical Bird's book "Transport Phenomena"

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Hagen-Poiseuille equation from the book "Transport Phenomena" by Bird, specifically addressing a confusion regarding the treatment of pressure in different exercises. A participant notes that in a 1960 edition, the Hagen-Poiseuille equation includes a pressure term, while in a previous exercise involving thin films, this term seemingly did not factor into the calculations. The conversation highlights a query about the omission of gravity in the momentum balance for the thin film exercise compared to the pipe flow scenario. Participants seek clarification on the specific exercise referenced and suggest that it may involve vertical flow, indicating a potential difference in how pressure and gravity are considered in various contexts. The need for a complete problem statement is emphasized to resolve the confusion.
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in the book " transport phenomena" (Bird) when obtaining the famous equation of hagen poiseuille
Bird defines a variable that involves the pressure, but when doing an exercise a term magically disappeared, someone could explain to me what happened
why we took into account the pressure in this balance and in the previous exercise (thin film) we did not

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I have a 1960 edition (!) and found HP $$Q={\pi \left ( {\mathfrak P}_0 - {\mathfrak P}_L \right ) R^4\over 8\mu L}\qquad\qquad(2.3-19)$$
##{\mathfrak P} = p - \rho gz## and (2.3-10) is as in your picture.

What exercise are you referring to with

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BvU said:
I have a 1960 edition (!) and found HP $$Q={\pi \left ( {\mathfrak P}_0 - {\mathfrak P}_L \right ) R^4\over 8\mu L}\qquad\qquad(2.3-19)$$
##{\mathfrak P} = p - \rho gz## and (2.3-10) is as in your picture.

What exercise are you referring to with

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In chapter 2 ,but in 2nd edition after balancing momentum in a pipe
 
The term that involves gravity ,what happens with that term?
 
Est120 said:
we took into account the pressure in this balance and in the previous exercise (thin film) we did not
Didn't find a thin film exercise -- but it will likely be vertical flow. Perhaps yours is horizontal ? Still don't know what exercise you are referring to. Can you post the complete problem statement for the example you are asking about or do you want me to keep sleuthing ?
 
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