Bird's book "Transport Phenomena"

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The discussion revolves around the treatment of pressure in Bird's book "Transport Phenomena," specifically regarding the Hagen-Poiseuille equation. A participant questions the disappearance of a pressure term in a momentum balance exercise involving thin films, contrasting it with the inclusion of pressure in the Hagen-Poiseuille derivation. The equation presented, $$Q={\pi \left ( {\mathfrak P}_0 - {\mathfrak P}_L \right ) R^4\over 8\mu L}$$, highlights the significance of pressure differences in fluid flow analysis. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity on the specific exercise referenced and the conditions under which gravity is considered.

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  • Understanding of fluid dynamics principles, particularly laminar flow.
  • Familiarity with the Hagen-Poiseuille equation and its derivation.
  • Knowledge of momentum balance in fluid systems.
  • Basic concepts of pressure and gravitational effects in fluid mechanics.
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  • Review the derivation of the Hagen-Poiseuille equation in "Transport Phenomena" by Bird.
  • Study the impact of gravitational forces on fluid flow in vertical and horizontal pipes.
  • Examine examples of momentum balance in fluid mechanics, focusing on scenarios with and without gravitational effects.
  • Explore the concept of thin film flow and its governing equations in fluid dynamics.
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in the book " transport phenomena" (Bird) when obtaining the famous equation of hagen poiseuille
Bird defines a variable that involves the pressure, but when doing an exercise a term magically disappeared, someone could explain to me what happened
why we took into account the pressure in this balance and in the previous exercise (thin film) we did not

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I have a 1960 edition (!) and found HP $$Q={\pi \left ( {\mathfrak P}_0 - {\mathfrak P}_L \right ) R^4\over 8\mu L}\qquad\qquad(2.3-19)$$
##{\mathfrak P} = p - \rho gz## and (2.3-10) is as in your picture.

What exercise are you referring to with

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BvU said:
I have a 1960 edition (!) and found HP $$Q={\pi \left ( {\mathfrak P}_0 - {\mathfrak P}_L \right ) R^4\over 8\mu L}\qquad\qquad(2.3-19)$$
##{\mathfrak P} = p - \rho gz## and (2.3-10) is as in your picture.

What exercise are you referring to with

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In chapter 2 ,but in 2nd edition after balancing momentum in a pipe
 
The term that involves gravity ,what happens with that term?
 
Est120 said:
we took into account the pressure in this balance and in the previous exercise (thin film) we did not
Didn't find a thin film exercise -- but it will likely be vertical flow. Perhaps yours is horizontal ? Still don't know what exercise you are referring to. Can you post the complete problem statement for the example you are asking about or do you want me to keep sleuthing ?
 
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