Black Holes: Internal Space & Matter Movement

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of internal space within black holes and the movement of matter in such a space. Participants explore theoretical implications and mathematical interpretations related to black holes, particularly in the context of General Relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that black holes might contain an "internal space" where matter can move freely, referencing a diagram to illustrate this idea.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the established concept of the Schwarzschild black hole from General Relativity, indicating a preference for discussions grounded in established theory.
  • A participant questions the relationship between the distance from a gravity source and space curvature, suggesting that negative distances could lead to complex numbers and additional dimensions, and expresses surprise that this idea has not been previously considered.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of internal space, arguing that the sign of spatial coordinates is arbitrary and can be adjusted, questioning the relevance of complex numbers to the discussion of extra dimensions.
  • A final post indicates that personal theories are not permitted for discussion on the forum, leading to the thread being locked.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express competing views on the existence and nature of internal space in black holes, with no consensus reached. The discussion remains unresolved, particularly regarding the implications of negative distances and the validity of personal theories.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on the assumptions underlying the concept of internal space and the dependence on definitions of distance and curvature. The discussion also reflects unresolved mathematical interpretations related to complex numbers and dimensions.

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Do black holes have an internal space? Consider the diagram. Inside the negative space, a "bubble" of sealed space, matter is free to move.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109630018/temp/phys/blackholein.jpg
 
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Are you familiar with the Schwarzschild black hole from General Relativity? I recommend you start there. At PF we do not discuss speculative proposals.
 
The effect of a gravity source on space curvature is proportional to sqrt(d) where d is the distance, so if d is negative (internal) space, does it become a complex number and get another dimension? How come nobody's thought of it?
 
Invutil said:
The effect of a gravity source on space curvature is proportional to sqrt(d) where d is the distance
Where are you getting this from?
so if d is negative (internal) space
There's no such thing as internal space, and the sign of the spatial coordinate is arbitrary: I can always "re-zero" my ruler so that all distances are positive.
does it become a complex number and get another dimension?
What do complex numbers have to do with extra dimensions?
 
Personal theories cannot be discussed on PF.

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