Blackbody radiation - derive expression for T

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving an expression for the temperature of an ideal blackbody, specifically in the context of its radiated light being sufficient to excite an electron from the ground state to the fourth excited state. The problem involves concepts from blackbody radiation and quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to connect the peak intensity wavelength to the temperature using the formula λm = 2.9*10-3 / T, while also considering the energy levels and the energy difference between them. Some participants question the specific ground state being referenced, with assumptions made about it being hydrogen.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the ground state in question. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of energy level differences, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the derived expression for temperature.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about the specific atom being referenced for the ground state, which affects the interpretation of the energy levels involved. Additionally, the original poster expresses confusion about how to consolidate the information they have gathered.

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Homework Statement


Derive an expression for the temperature of an ideal blackbody so that its radiated light at the peak intensity wavelength has exactly enough energy to excite the ground state to fourth excited state.

Homework Equations


I = σ*T4
λm*T = 2.9 * 10-3 m * K
E = hf = hc/λ

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, the peak intensity wavelength is at λm = 2.9*10-3 / T.
I'm not sure what to do with the energy levels... the energy difference between levels is hf... do I use that Rydberg formula with n's?

I've got bits and pieces of information but I can't pull it all together. Could someone guide me in the right direction? Thanks!
 
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The ground state of what?
 
See, it doesn't say the ground state of what, that's also what confused me, but I assumed it was hydrogen since that's the simplest and that's the only thing we've done so far.

But I worked through it and got:

T = -2.9*10-3 * R * (1/12 - 1/42)

Can anyone confirm that is correct?

Also, how do I delete a post? I can't seem to find the 'delete' button.
 
mbradar2 said:
T = -2.9*10-3 * R * (1/12 - 1/42)

Can anyone confirm that is correct?
Looks good, assuming you use appropriate units and that they meant hydrogen.
Also, how do I delete a post? I can't seem to find the 'delete' button.
Members can delete their own posts for some limited time after posting. (I should know what that time limit is, but I don't :redface:) Otherwise, you can hit the Report button and request that a moderator delete the post -- but you should provide a reasonable justification for doing so, or we will simply leave it intact.
 

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