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Boat B, starting 18 km east of Boat A, should head approximately 56.4° south of west to intercept Boat A, which is traveling south at 30 km/hr. The calculations involve setting up a coordinate system and using parametric equations to determine the optimal angle for Boat B's trajectory. The distance between the two boats is minimized by solving a derived function, leading to the conclusion that Boat B's angle is crucial for interception. The discussion also touches on alternative methods, including the sine rule, but emphasizes that the calculus approach is the most effective for this optimization problem.
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a boat A is heading south at 30 km/hr. its spotted a boat B which is 18 km due east of boat A. boat B has a max speed of 25 km/hr and wishes to get a close as possible to boat A. what direction should boat B head in.

so i initially let boat A be the origin heading south. boat B starts at (18,0) and heads south of west. so i let 18-25sina=0 solving this gives 46 degrees. the answer is 56.4 south of west. i can explain what i did in more detail if anyone needs it.
 
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I think what I would do is orient a coordinate system such that south is up and west is to the right. At time $t=0$, have boat A at the origin, and boat B at $(-18,0)$. Then, parametrize the motion of the two boats:

Boat A:

$$x_A(t)=0$$

$$y_A(t)=30t$$

Boat B:

$$x_B(t)=25\cos(\theta)t-18$$

$$y_B(t)=25\sin(\theta)t$$

Now, the square of the distance $D$ between the boats is:

$$D^2=f(\theta,t)=\left(25\cos(\theta)t-18\right)^2+\left(30t-25\sin(\theta)t\right)^2$$

So, we want to find any critical points:

$$f_{\theta}(\theta,t)=2\left(25\cos(\theta)t-18\right)(-25\sin(\theta)t)+2\left(30t-25\sin(\theta)t\right)(-25\cos(\theta)t)=0$$

This reduces to (discarding the boundary $t=0$):

$$t=\frac{3}{5}\tan(\theta)$$

$$f_{t}(\theta,t)=2\left(25\cos(\theta)t-18\right)(25\cos(\theta))+2\left(30t-25\sin(\theta)t\right)(30-25\sin(\theta))=0$$

This reduces to:

$$61t-18\cos(\theta)-60\sin(\theta)t=0$$

Substituting for $t$, we obtain:

$$61\left(\frac{3}{5}\tan(\theta)\right)-18\cos(\theta)-60\sin(\theta)\left(\frac{3}{5}\tan(\theta)\right)=0$$

$$183\sin(\theta)-90\cos^2(\theta)-180\sin^2(\theta)=0$$

$$90\sin^2(\theta)-183\sin(\theta)+90=0$$

$$3\left(5\sin(\theta)-6\right)\left(6\sin(\theta)-5\right)=0$$

Discarding the root outside of the range of the sine function, we are left with:

$$\sin(\theta)=\frac{5}{6}\implies\theta\approx56.44269023807928^{\circ}$$
 
MarkFL said:
I think what I would do is orient a coordinate system such that south is up and west is to the right. At time $t=0$, have boat A at the origin, and boat B at $(-18,0)$. Then, parametrize the motion of the two boats:

Boat A:

$$x_A(t)=0$$

$$y_A(t)=30t$$

Boat B:

$$x_B(t)=25\cos(\theta)t-18$$

$$y_B(t)=25\sin(\theta)t$$

Now, the square of the distance $D$ between the boats is:

$$D^2=f(\theta,t)=\left(25\cos(\theta)t-18\right)^2+\left(30t-25\sin(\theta)t\right)^2$$

So, we want to find any critical points:

$$f_{\theta}(\theta,t)=2\left(25\cos(\theta)t-18\right)(-25\sin(\theta)t)+2\left(30t-25\sin(\theta)t\right)(-25\cos(\theta)t)=0$$

This reduces to (discarding the boundary $t=0$):

$$t=\frac{3}{5}\tan(\theta)$$

$$f_{t}(\theta,t)=2\left(25\cos(\theta)t-18\right)(25\cos(\theta))+2\left(30t-25\sin(\theta)t\right)(30-25\sin(\theta))=0$$

This reduces to:

$$61t-18\cos(\theta)-60\sin(\theta)t=0$$

Substituting for $t$, we obtain:

$$61\left(\frac{3}{5}\tan(\theta)\right)-18\cos(\theta)-60\sin(\theta)\left(\frac{3}{5}\tan(\theta)\right)=0$$

$$183\sin(\theta)-90\cos^2(\theta)-180\sin^2(\theta)=0$$

$$90\sin^2(\theta)-183\sin(\theta)+90=0$$

$$3\left(5\sin(\theta)-6\right)\left(6\sin(\theta)-5\right)=0$$

Discarding the root outside of the range of the sine function, we are left with:

$$\sin(\theta)=\frac{5}{6}\implies\theta\approx56.44269023807928^{\circ}$$
thanks for your reply. just wondering is there a way using triangles to solve this using the sine rule do you know?
 
Being that it is an optimization problem, on a function in two variables, the way I worked it using the calculus is the most straightforward way I know of. :D

In what course was this problem given?
 
It's in a relative velocity chapter in math physics
 
markosheehan said:
It's in a relative velocity chapter in math physics

Is this a calculus-based physics course?
 
theres no calculus in the course. I am a bit confused on your answer. so i get that you are squaring the distance in the y direction between the boats and you are squaring the distance in the x direction between the boats and you are letting it equal to zero because the the boat B is aiming to intercept boat A.

however i don't understand your method of factorising (25cos(a)t-18)^2 + (30t-25sin(a)t)^2 =0

also i was thinking an easier way to solve it would be to say the distance traveled by the boats in the y direction is 25sinat=30t so 25sina=30 sina=30/25 sadly this doesn't work. why doesn't it work do you know?
 

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