Body asymmetry - a personal study

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the asymmetry of veins on the backs of participants' hands, exploring personal observations and configurations. Participants share their individual vein patterns and compare them to proposed configurations, leading to reflections on the variability of human anatomy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes their veins converge in a specific pattern (A), expecting symmetry between hands but finding differences.
  • Another participant describes their left hand's veins as having a larger middle vein with a unique connection to the others, while their right hand resembles a specific diagram pattern.
  • A different participant identifies their veins as pattern C, with a mirror-image configuration between hands but with a separation in convergence.
  • Some participants express surprise at the variability of vein structures, noting that not everyone has three major veins, as one participant's wife has many smaller veins instead.
  • One participant emphasizes the significant variation in blood vessel anatomy, particularly in medical training, where students learn about these differences through cadaver dissection.
  • Another participant mentions their inability to see veins due to skin pigmentation, suggesting visibility may change with skin tone variations.
  • One participant identifies their pattern as E, indicating no symmetry and a divergence from the initial configurations presented.
  • Another participant describes their left hand as type A with an additional vein to the thumb, while their right hand has multiple veins joining past the wrist.
  • One participant expresses intrigue at the discussion's relevance to physicists, while another notes their veins are barely visible and do not appear to join on the back of their hand.
  • One participant suggests needing a high-intensity light to better observe their vein patterns.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the variability of vein structures, with multiple competing views on specific configurations and patterns. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the commonality of vein patterns among individuals.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their vein patterns and the visibility of veins, indicating that personal anatomy may depend on factors such as skin type and lighting conditions.

What configuration do your hand veins take on? (see attachment)


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Do you know things like the back of your hand?
How well do you know the back of your hand?

I noticed the veins on the backs of my hands are asymmetrical. On both hands I have 3 large veins, one coming from between each pair of fingers. By the time they reach my wrists, they have converged into one vein.

But how they converge differs.
On my left hand, the two rightmost veins converge first, then that converges with the leftmost. On my right hand, the two rightmost veins converge first, then that converges with the leftmost.
(OK, so that's actually the same. But I would have expected they'd be mirror-images of each other.)

So now I realize there are several possibilities for configuration - one pair of mirror-symmeries and one pair of ...uh ... translational symmetries.

I diagrammed them. My configuration is A (Rightmost convergence first)

What's yours?
 

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I have 3 veins on my left hand's back, the middle one is larger than the other 2, there seems to be no connection between the middle and the leftmost veins, but a smaller one exists to bridge the middle the the third one located near the pointing finger and thumb
On the back of my right hand is the A pattern's right diagram but the farthest branch seems to run backward instead of flowing toward the smallest finger .
 
it looks like it's C,
but with a slight difference, where on my right hand, the two rightmost veins converge first, but it doesn't converge with the leftmost, they are separated. my left hand would be a mirror-image to my right hand.
 
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Mine are C and look to be very symmetrical.
 
I am actually realizing that people are much more varied than I thought.
My premise was that everyone's large veinous structure was relatively similar - to the point that I assumed everyone else had three major veins. This is why I laid out the four options as I did.

But it turns out from looking at pics and looking at other people, the network of veins is quite different than my hands. My wife, for example, has many smaller veins rather than three large ones.
 
Yes, there is HUGE variation in blood vessels, especially veins. It's the reason we still train med students with cadaver dissection, because you really don't appreciate the variation until you've seen many examples of it...none look just like the drawings in the texts. They are also often surprised when they see that the right and left side of the same body don't even match. They get frustrated when I tell them to look for things like a branching of a nerve and tell them they might find it anywhere between the hip and the knee.

In theory, the veins in your hand and foot should form an arch fed by tributaries from each of the fingers or toes. You may or may not be able to see all of this superficially through your skin, depending on your skin type.
 
I can't see my veins - my skin is too dark. Maybe in the winter when the tan has faded. ;-)
 
E for me, they look nothing like your picture and there is also no symmetry between the hands, a conclusion that you already came to.
 
My left hand is your type A, though it also has a large vein going to the thumb. My right is E: 6-7 veins which join somewhere past the wrist.
 
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THink, I'm a D. It's quite amazing that can intrigue physicists.
 
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My hand veins are very indistinct, barely visible. I don't think they actually join on the back of my hand. It looks like at least 2 of the veins continue separately over my wrist.
 
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i can't really tell. i think i would need to use a high-intensity light on my palm or something to see.
 

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