Discussion Overview
This discussion revolves around the challenges of increasing the boil-off rate of liquid argon using a high-powered resistor. Participants explore the effectiveness of the resistor in a dewar setup, the calculations involved in heat transfer, and alternative methods for achieving higher boil-off rates. The conversation includes both theoretical and practical considerations related to cryogenic liquids.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant notes that their high-powered resistor (1 ohm, 100 W) does not seem to increase the boil-off rate of liquid argon, as the time taken remains about an hour with and without the resistor.
- Another participant questions the size of the dewar and suggests that the power output of the resistor may not be sufficient to significantly affect the boil-off rate, estimating it could boil off around 500 mL of liquid argon per hour.
- Some participants propose that using a better power supply and multiple resistors could enhance the heating effect, while also considering the potential decrease in resistance at cryogenic temperatures.
- There is a discussion about the importance of latent heat of evaporation versus boiling points, with some participants emphasizing that the energy required to boil off the liquid is more critical than the boiling point itself.
- Concerns are raised about the accuracy of measurements and the need for precise timing when assessing boil-off rates.
- One participant mentions that the resistor's rated power is irrelevant if the actual power supplied is lower than its maximum capacity, and they discuss their method of measuring resistance and power supply settings.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of the resistor setup, the calculations of heat transfer, and the relevance of boiling points versus latent heat. No consensus is reached regarding the optimal method for increasing the boil-off rate of liquid argon.
Contextual Notes
Participants acknowledge limitations in their calculations and measurements, including assumptions about the resistor's behavior at cryogenic temperatures and the efficiency of the dewar. There are also unresolved questions about the exact power output and heat transfer dynamics in the setup.