Books to read for high school physics?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for books and resources to prepare for a physics degree, focusing on high school physics, chemistry, and mathematics. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding learning materials, emphasizing the importance of theory and problem-solving.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to cover the entire physics curriculum in nine months, seeking resources that include theory and worked problems.
  • Another participant suggests that a strong foundation in mathematics is crucial and recommends "An Introduction to Mechanics" by Kleppner and Kolenkow for classical mechanics, followed by Purcell's "Electricity and Magnetism" for further study.
  • A participant shares their struggles with understanding basic physics concepts and recommends "Precalculus: A Problem Solving Approach" by David Cohen for improving mathematical skills.
  • There is a suggestion to consider both Stewart's and Thomas's calculus books, with a note on the differences in language and derivations between editions.
  • One participant advises against using Randall Knight's physics book, labeling it as unsatisfactory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of a solid mathematical foundation for studying physics, but there are differing opinions on specific textbooks and their effectiveness. No consensus is reached regarding the best resources, as preferences vary based on individual learning styles.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express limitations in their understanding of physics concepts and the challenges they face in memorizing and applying theoretical knowledge. There is also mention of varying preferences for book styles and content, indicating that recommendations may depend on personal learning approaches.

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I basically started learning physics 4 months ago. I want to cover the whole physics school curriculum in the next 9 months, as well as the important chemistry and maths. I want to be prepared to start a physics degree in 9 months. I have around 4 hours a day(approx) to devote to it. I want to know all the good resources to learn these topics. I want to know the good books, websites and anything else. My focus is on understanding the theory and solving problems. Books that have lots of theory and/or lots of worked problems are what I love to read. I love examples and diagrams.

My background...
My maths is around pre-calculus/beginner calculus level. I found maths easy until this level but it. Though it isn't always easy anymore, it has become more fun and useful. The difficulty of some problems is balanced by the fun.

Despite being somewhat good at maths I have struggled a lot to understand basics physics concepts and still don't understand them enough. Actually I have seen some classmates chug along thinking I'm stupid, while I sat there wondering what energy even is.

So far the best physics books I have read have been:

Basic Physics - Karl F Kuhn
This book was a very good way to learn but isn't comprehensive enough.

Introduction to Advanced Physics - David Brodie
This book had good theory but not enough problems and answers

So here are my mental handicaps:
I struggle to memorize anything without context
I struggle to apply anything without knowing the theory behind it
I struggle to understand from words alone sometimes. Whereas you can just point to a diagram, then say this has x properties, that has y properties, and I'll understand instantly.

So summary books like CGP don't work well for me. I basically need to cover the whole A level physics as well as the important chemistry and maths topics needed for physics, for 16 -18/19 year olds in the UK. I can handle maths myself but am looking for help to find good physics and chemistry resources which I can study that will prepare me for the first year of a physics undergraduate course.
 
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Honestly the best preparation is to get as much math completed as you possibly can. A college physics major will generally start from the ground up, and assumes no prior knowledge of physics. I don't know how possible it would be to cover it all in 9 months, but you can certainly get a good start on it. Kleppner and Kolenkow's "An Introduction to Mechanics" is a good source for learning the material contained in Physics I (classical mechanics), and following that up with Purcell's "Electricity and Magnetism" is a good coverage of the material contained in Physics II. You'll want to browse through some of the page previews on Amazon or something like that though. You may or may not find their structure to be to your liking.
 
patternman said:
I basically started learning physics 4 months ago. I want to cover the whole physics school curriculum in the next 9 months, as well as the important chemistry and maths. I want to be prepared to start a physics degree in 9 months. I have around 4 hours a day(approx) to devote to it. I want to know all the good resources to learn these topics. I want to know the good books, websites and anything else. My focus is on understanding the theory and solving problems. Books that have lots of theory and/or lots of worked problems are what I love to read. I love examples and diagrams.

My background...
My maths is around pre-calculus/beginner calculus level. I found maths easy until this level but it. Though it isn't always easy anymore, it has become more fun and useful. The difficulty of some problems is balanced by the fun.

Despite being somewhat good at maths I have struggled a lot to understand basics physics concepts and still don't understand them enough. Actually I have seen some classmates chug along thinking I'm stupid, while I sat there wondering what energy even is.

So far the best physics books I have read have been:

Basic Physics - Karl F Kuhn
This book was a very good way to learn but isn't comprehensive enough.

Introduction to Advanced Physics - David Brodie
This book had good theory but not enough problems and answers

So here are my mental handicaps:
I struggle to memorize anything without contextI struggle to apply anything without knowing the theory behind it
I struggle to understand from words alone sometimes. Whereas you can just point to a diagram, then say this has x properties, that has y properties, and I'll understand instantly.

So summary books like CGP don't work well for me. I basically need to cover the whole A level physics as well as the important chemistry and maths topics needed for physics, for 16 -18/19 year olds in the UK. I can handle maths myself but am looking for help to find good physics and chemistry resources which I can study that will prepare me for the first year of a physics undergraduate course.

I would recommend taking a look at David Cohen book called, "Precalculus a Problem Solving Approaching. I used the book for a pre cal class in community college and really enjoyed it. The author explains the material thoroughly without the sacrifice of rigor. Some of the end of sections problems can be extremely difficult.

After getting better at trig/algebra buy a calculus book. Stewart is a good introduction to calculus (I prefer thomas calculus with analytic geometry 3ed however). Soak up as much as you can. Remember is better to an understanding of fewer things than knowing how to plug and chug many things. Do not rush to learn everything. But ask yourself while doing problems. Do I understand why? If I don't understand why what do I understand? Etc. Think while u learn, just don't go at math speed trying to finish every book.
 
Thomas calculus 3rd edition is amazing but some of the language used in this edition or even the derivations for certain properties are not standard from what you see in today's book.

Maybe buy an old copy of stewart and a copy of thomas calculus with analytic geometry? Should not be more than 20 dollars.

Avoid physics book by Randall Knight, they suck.
 

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