Bound charges of a block (top and bottom surface)

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To find the bound charges on the top and bottom surfaces of a block, the electric displacement field (D) is essential, but determining its value can be complex due to the geometry of the cube. The discussion emphasizes using Gauss' law to calculate D, particularly when considering a Gaussian surface that encompasses the charged region. It is clarified that D is related to the charge density and the area of the surfaces involved, with the total charge influencing the calculations. The participants express confusion regarding the relationship between D and the total charge, as well as how to apply Gauss' law correctly in this context. Ultimately, understanding the charge distribution and applying the correct formulas is crucial for accurately determining the bound charges.
  • #31
TSny said:
You have not used the correct value for the free charge density ##\rho## of the electron layer.
Please include units with the numerical values.
Yes, I saw that, I edited too late.

All right,
##D = \frac{0.02 c/m^3 \cdot 0.002m}{2} = 0.00002 c/m^2##
##E = 705896 v/m##

Finally, I found ##\sigma = -0.000014 c/m^2## for both surface of the block.
 
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  • #32
EpselonZero said:
Yes, I saw that, I edited too late.

All right,
##D = \frac{0.02 c/m^3 \cdot 0.002m}{2} = 0.00002 c/m^2##
##E = 705896 v/m##

Finally, I found ##\sigma = -0.000014 c/m^2## for both surface of the block.
Those answers look correct. :oldsmile:

The values that you give for D and E are good for points inside the dielectric except for points within the electron layer. (Of course, we are using an approximation where we are neglecting any fringing of the fields.)

The use of scientific notation and rounding to an appropriate number of significant figures would be nice.
 
  • #33
All right, I have few more questions.
I found E and D using free charges inside the slab. however, since I don't have free charges inside the other part of the dielectric does it means that ##\sigma_f = 0## and ##\rho_f = 0##, even if a dielectric has a polarization density.
 
  • #34
Yes. This system has "free" volumen charge only un the central slab
 
  • #35
All right, it took me some time to understand, but thank you both for your help. Things all clearer now.
 
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  • #36
For dielectrics that are linear, isotropic, and homogeneous, we have ##\vec P = \epsilon_0 \chi_e \vec E## where ##\chi_e## is a constant related to the relative permittivity, ##\epsilon_r##: ##\chi_e = \epsilon_r - 1##.

For these dielectrics, it is not hard to derive a useful relation between the bound charge density ##\rho_{b}## and free charge density ##\rho_f## that holds for any point inside the dielectric.

##\large \rho_b = - \frac{\chi_e }{\epsilon_r}\rho_f \,\,\,\,\,## (This type of relation does not hold for the the surface charge densities ##\sigma_b## and ##\sigma_f##.)

You can use this to get the bound volume charge density ##\rho_b## inside the electron layer. Then you can check that the total bound charge of the dielectric is zero, as it must be.
 

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