Box being pulled up a ramp by a horizontal force

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Homework Statement



A box (mass = 50.0 kg) is being pulled up a ramp at an angle of (27 ⁰) by a horizontal force, (F→).
Given that the coefficient of kinetic friction for the ramp is 0.3, find the force, (F→) on the box.

What is the reaction force on the box due to the tramp? (Identify type of force, what causes the force, what the force is acting on, and the direction that force is acting).


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Homework Equations



Key: ∆X = distance X direction
Vo = Initial Velocity
Vf = Final Velocity
A = Acceleration
T = Time
*Possible equations given to solve the Problem*
∆X = volt + 1/2AT ** Vf = Vo + AT ** V²F = V²o + 2A ∆X ** ∆X = [(Vo + Vf)/2]T


The Attempt at a Solution



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The X and Y axis have been rotated to accommodate the new angle 27 ⁰

μ (coefficient of kinetic friction)= .3
Ff = (μ)(Fn)
Ff = (.3)(50.0kg)(9.81 m/s^2)
Ff = 147.15 N (Newtons)
Fn = ma (mass)(acceleration)
= (50.0kg)(-(-9.81m/s^2)
= 490.5 N
Fgy = (50.0kg)(-9.81m/s^2)
= -490.5 N
What I think I need…
Fgx = (50.0kg)(9.81m/s^2)(sin ? ⁰)
My difficulty is (sin ? ⁰)…

Because (F →) is horizontal instead
of being parallel with the X axis, how do I find the proper sin angle?
63 ⁰? Or 63 ⁰ + 27 ⁰? Or 63 ⁰ - 27 ⁰?...

If I can find the proper sin angle would I then equate (F →) as the Fnet (net force) by adding
Fgy + Fgx + Ff?

How are the given kinematic equations involved in finding the solution? (if at all)
 
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  • Free-body style sketch of a red box labelled 50.0 kg on a blue ramp inclined at 27°, with a label (F→) at upper right indicating a horizontal force.
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  • Free-body diagram of a 50.0 kg box on a 27 degree incline, with the x and y axes rotated to align with the ramp, normal force Fn, horizontal force F, and gravity components Fgx and Fgy marked.
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  • Free-body diagram of a 50.0 kg box on a 27 degree incline, with normal force Fn, friction Ff, gravity components Fgx and Fgy, and horizontal force F labeled; a Q2 question list is at left.
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A box (mass = 50.0 kg) is being pulled up a ramp at an angle of (27 ⁰) by a horizontal force, (F→).
Whether the force is parallel to the base of the inclined plane or parallel to the surface of the inclined plane? ( I can't open the attachment)
 
The jpeg was supposed to give the clearest picture possible to the problem. maybe i loaded it wrong...

gonna try again
 
The horizontal force is parallel to the base of the angle (the ground)
 
lol, they don't have viruses. And both the jpegs and the pngs worked/working for me. But that might just be because I'm the poster?
 
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I can also view the pngs from the (files) link at the website main menu (top of webpage)
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment_browser.php
 
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I got the pictures. Now resolve the force F and Fg into two components, One parellel to the inclined plane and another perpendicular to the inclined plane. They are Fcos(27)-parallel, Fsin(27) Perpendicular. Similarly Fgsin(27)--parallel, Fgcos(27) parpendicular. Add the perpendicular compomnents. It becomes normal reaction, from that find the frictional force,Fr. Fr + Fgsin(27) = total downward force. In equilibrium this must be equal to upward Fcos(27). Now solve for F.
 
Sorry,my english is poor.
Is that box stand at ramp(and it o not muve again) ?
If it is,build a coordinate system .x-axis is parallel to inclined plane.
y-axis is perpendicular to the inclined plane.

Now resolve gravity to two parts
f(gx)=-mgsin27*
f(gy)=-mgcos27*

resolve F to two parts
f(Fx)=Fcos27*
f(Fy)=-Fsin27*

kinetic friction:f(μ)=μ[f(Fy)+f(gy)]

For equilibrium:
f(Fx)+f(μ)+f(gx)=0

f(Fx)+μf(Fy)=-f(gx)-μf(gy)

Fcos27*+0.3(Fsin27*)=0.3(50)(9.8)(cos27*)+50(9.8)(sin27*)

[Because (F →) is horizontal instead
of being parallel with the X axis, how do I find the proper sin angle?]
When I study physics at early.I have same problems as you.But it is not difficult.
To build a coordinate system(Origin is the mass center),one axis parallel to path,another perpendicular.
All the force,must resolve to these tow axises.
I hope it can help you.

PS.Pardon me for my lousy English.
 
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