Brittle to Ductile transition temperature of steel S450GD

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The discussion centers around the brittle to ductile transition temperature of steel grade S450GD, particularly in the context of rolled coil steel experiencing cracking and fracturing during profiling. Participants explore the mechanical properties, chemical composition, and potential causes of brittleness at low temperatures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Connor, describes issues with cracking in rolled coil steel at low temperatures (2-4°C) and seeks resources on the brittle to ductile transition.
  • Another participant suggests the ASM Handbooks as a valuable resource for understanding steel properties, noting their accessibility despite high costs.
  • A different participant mentions the concept of a "sub-grade" that defines the temperature at which toughness is measured and provides a link to a tutorial on brittle fracture.
  • Further discussion includes the mechanical properties of S450GD, highlighting its high strength and minimum elongation, and the potential for increased cracking if local deformation exceeds certain limits.
  • Concerns are raised about the upper limits of phosphorus and sulfur in the chemical composition of the steel, which may contribute to cracking.
  • Questions are posed regarding the types of formability tests conducted and whether microscopy is performed on the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various concerns and hypotheses regarding the brittleness of S450GD steel, but no consensus is reached on the specific causes or solutions to the cracking issue.

Contextual Notes

Discussion includes references to specific mechanical properties, chemical compositions, and testing methods, but lacks clarity on the impact of these factors on the brittle to ductile transition temperature.

conrad dunk
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Hi guys,

I'm having an issue at the minute with rolled coil steel, cracking and fracturing when being rolled into a profile. The material certs are within ISO specification, i.e. chemical composition analysis and the mechanical properties etc.

The carbon equivalent may be a little high, but still be in specification. As the temperature of the steel being rolled is somewhere around 2-4 Degrees C, It may be closer to the brittle zone. Steel grade S450GD

Can anyone provide any further information on this? It's a phenomena I know little about, and unable to find any resources on the internet. A book, or study conducted would be a good pointer.

Many thanks,

Connor
 
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conrad dunk said:
Steel grade S450GD

hope this helps. I'm no NDTT expert, just am aware from my reactor days that it is a property of steel.

i gather there's a "sub-grade" that defines the temperature at which 'toughness' is measured ?

clicking this link
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at https://www.steelconstruction.info/Steel_material_properties#Toughness
installed a pdf file that looks informative
it has a tutorial on brittle fracture.

two snips:

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do your procurement documents include a sub-grade ?old jim
 

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conrad dunk said:
with rolled coil steel, cracking and fracturing when being rolled into a profile. The material certs are within ISO specification, i.e. chemical composition analysis and the mechanical properties etc.

The carbon equivalent may be a little high, but still be in specification. As the temperature of the steel being rolled is somewhere around 2-4 Degrees C, It may be closer to the brittle zone. Steel grade S450GD
The S450 grade indicates relative high strength, min Sy = 450 MPa with a min elongation (ductility) of ~14% in longitudinal direction. If the local deformation exceeds 14%, then one may find an increased probability of tearing or cracking. Depending on the manufacturing route, there may be carbides and sulphides that promote cracking.

See also, https://www.thefabricator.com/article/stamping/die-science-splitting-or-cracking-

The chemical composition of the steel grades in max. % by mass:

C ≤ 0.20%, P ≤ 0.10%, Si ≤ 0.60%, S ≤ 0.045%, Mn ≤ 1.70 %
from https://www.stahl-online.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/CM-095E_Continuously-Hot-Dip-Coated-Steel-Strip-and-Sheet_final.pdf (p. 16)

The upper limits of P and S on commercial standards are too high in my opinion.

What kind of formability test does one organization perform, e.g., bend or punch test? Is microscopy performed on the material?
 

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