Building a Battery Charger with Car Alternator

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This discussion focuses on building a battery charger using a 3/4 hp 240V AC motor to drive a 55 amp car alternator. The proposed setup is inefficient due to the energy loss in converting AC to DC through multiple stages. It is noted that the maximum output from the alternator will be limited to approximately 40 amps at 13.8V, rather than the full 55 amps. Participants suggest considering additional loads on the alternator and calculating the correct rotational speed to optimize performance.

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  • Understanding of 240V AC motor operation
  • Knowledge of car alternator functionality and specifications
  • Familiarity with electrical efficiency concepts
  • Basic principles of AC to DC conversion
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  • Research the efficiency of motor-generator setups in battery charging
  • Learn about the internal workings of alternators and their applications
  • Investigate methods to optimize rotational speed for alternators
  • Explore alternative battery charging methods beyond using an alternator
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This discussion is beneficial for DIY enthusiasts, electrical engineers, and anyone interested in alternative energy solutions, particularly in battery charging systems using automotive components.

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i wish to build a battery charger using a 3/4hp240voltac motor driving a 55amp car alternator will this work has anyone done this before and will my caravan batteries be oka i have a gen set to drive the electric motor all these questions i hope to be reveled rolly
 
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Punctuation is your friend.

If I understand your problem correctly, you have a 240vac electric motor with which you wish to drive an alternator to produce a 13.6vdc output in order to charge the batteries for your van?

This would be a waste of energy, to begin with... you are using two phase 240vac wall power to turn a motor which turns a generator that makes a three phase ac voltage which is then rectified into a dc voltage to charge your batteries.

http://members.1stconnect.com/anozira/SiteTops/energy/Alternator/alternator.htm is a decent explanation on the internal workings of an alternator along with ways to use one for other than its intended purpose. I would say that you might want to add some load other than the batteries to the alternator, and you will also need to calculate the correct rotational speed for the alternator.
 
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As Dngrsone pointed out this is a rather inefficient way to go.

In addition you will not be able to get full rated output (55 Amps) from the alternator as 3/4 horsepower works out to about 40 amps at 13.8v.
 
It's not that bad of a way to go. I've done it. If you already have the motor and alternator why not? Efficiency isn't always that big of a deal.
 
True, a motor generator is almost the only way to go in some applications, like changing the frequency of a primary power source (going from, say 60Hz to 400Hz). I was just pointing out the inefficiency in this case.

With a little engineering homework, he might be able to bypass the moving parts and just run the AC straight through the regulator-section... that's a little beyond my knowledge and scope at the moment.
 
BTW Dngrsone, he is not using 2 phase.
 
Oh? He not American, then? I didn't know if those 50Hz/240vac systems over there were one or two phase.
 
There is no such thing as 2-phase. Not in the sense you are thinking of it anyway.
 
I'm thinking my house is powered with phases A and C from the neighborhood network... two phases of the three available from the sub-station.
 
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Dngrsone said:
I'm thinking my house is powered with phases A and C from the neighborhood network... two phases of the three available from the sub-station.
Residential electrical power and confusion about the number of phases has been discussed in several threads recently so I won’t get into it again (search for "phase").

FYI the typical home in the USA receives single-phase 240vac. The 120vac is derived from the 240vac.


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