Building a Bi-Directional SPDT Solid-State Relay Circuit with MOSFETs

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The discussion revolves around the design of a bi-directional single-pole double-throw (SPDT) solid-state relay circuit using MOSFETs. Participants explore various configurations and components, including the use of H-Bridge circuits and analog switch topologies, while addressing concerns about circuit functionality and design choices.

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Main Points Raised

  • Jason O proposes a bi-directional SPDT solid-state relay circuit using MOSFETs, expressing concern about the grounding of the driver ICs.
  • One participant suggests that the two MOSFETs connected to terminal B may be shorted out due to the common ground.
  • Another participant mentions the potential of using H-Bridge circuits but questions how to achieve bidirectionality with that design.
  • There is interest in maintaining the use of FETs for their fast switching times, despite exploring other components like triacs.
  • A suggestion is made to use an analog switch topology with a combination of n-channel and p-channel FETs, along with references to specific circuit examples from manufacturers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the circuit design, particularly regarding the grounding issue and the feasibility of using H-Bridge configurations for a bidirectional switch. No consensus is reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the provided circuit diagrams, such as the lack of clarity in the FET topology and the need for further exploration of bidirectional configurations.

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Individuals interested in solid-state relay design, MOSFET applications, and circuit topology exploration may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello All,

I have been trying to think of a way to make a Single-pole double-throw solid-state relay circuit out of some MOSFETs that I have laying around. I determied that I wanted to this SSR to be bidirectional so that it will behave as much like a mechanical relay as possible. I first started with a SPST version using two Mosfets with their source pins tied together and used as a ground reference for the driver IC, which has it's own floating power supply (battery) referenced to the same point independent of the load circuit. I then took it a step further and added another pair of MOSFETs and a driver so that the setup could be driven as the compliment of the first pair. I drew a circuit diagram showing my idea but I'm wondering if it is ok that both drivers are referenced to the same floating ground. Could someone take a look and let me know if this is a good way to do this?

Thanks,
Jason O
 

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From what I can see the two MOSFETs connected to B are shorted out of the circuit by the common ground.

Just a guess, but you may want to look into H-Bridge circuits.

IIRC they do make a variant of a triac that can be turned off by control signal.
 
Yeah I thought there was something funny there. Good catch. The triac idea sounds interesting but i really want to stick with the use of Fets because of the fast switching times. As for the H-Bridge design, that's an interesting approach as well but then I'm not sure how to make it bidirectional, and I'm not sure that the general setup woud be good for a bidirectional switch type of setup.

Are there any circuits out there that use FETs in an bidirectional SPDT configuration?
 
You would make such a switch out of an analog switch topology, with a mix of n-channel and p-channel FETs. Here is one example of a SPDT analog switch from Maxim:

http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/2561

Unfortunately, the datasheet doesn't show you the FET topology...

This one has a better internal schematic (although drawn kind of funny):

http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/MM%2FMM74HC4066.pdf

And this is the basic analog switch schematic that I was looking for (but ignore the "amp" at the bottom):

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6577263-0-large.jpg
 
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