Computer Building a PC, give me your thoughts please

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The discussion revolves around building a PC primarily for numerical simulations, programming, and using Linux. The user is considering an Intel Core i7 7700 CPU, despite it being overkill for their needs, and is seeking advice on components like a compatible motherboard, RAM, and power supply. There are concerns about the adequacy of a 300W power supply, with suggestions to opt for a 600W for better reliability. The conversation also touches on the implications of using SSDs for swap space, with opinions on the longevity and performance of SSDs compared to HDDs, and the potential need for a swap partition based on RAM usage. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of balancing performance needs with component choices for a responsive and efficient system.
  • #51
Some thought should be given to choosing a case to house the components in. They can be functional and or fancy.

Factors affecting choice:

Type of motherboard. Generally a case will house most boards. Some latest boards need special cases.

Do some research on cooling, cross ventilation, positive negative pressure.

Consider room to put your hands into access parts.

(I don't buy new cases becuse I've got so many salvaged ones to choose from. I do keep a large all aluminium Lian Li upside down case because I like its fan configuration and large size.

In salvaging a number of cases I get lots of little components that are useful like screws (I particularly like the knurled ones that I can remove and tighten by hand), mountings, motherboard speakers, fans, cables, led's, switches.)
 
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  • #52
john101 said:
all aluminium Lian Li

I have one and it is really well built. The all aluminum construction helps with cooling the drives bolted to it. The one I have has removable drive cages and that makes working on it easy. You will pay for the privilege but is money well spent.

BoB
 
  • #54
I've ordered all the parts from amazon, I used pcpartpicker and IRC for suggestions.
These were my choices : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/6CtQBP. I also bought a 24' 1920x1080 monitor. I would have liked a 2550x1444 resolution but the prices were almost 3 times higher, not worth it for me.
 
  • #55
fluidistic said:
I've ordered all the parts from amazon, I used pcpartpicker and IRC for suggestions.
These were my choices : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/6CtQBP. I also bought a 24' 1920x1080 monitor. I would have liked a 2550x1444 resolution but the prices were almost 3 times higher, not worth it for me.
Hm ... pairing an i7 with only 8Gigs of main RAM seems odd. If you are enough of a power user to make anything like significant use of an i7's capabilities, you are going to want 16Gigs.
 
  • #56
phinds said:
Hm ... pairing an i7 with only 8Gigs of main RAM seems odd. If you are enough of a power user to make anything like significant use of an i7's capabilities, you are going to want 16Gigs.
I don't know whether it's odd. But you're right in that I'll want 16 GB. I picked 8 GB just to see how it goes, if I ever use the swap (I'll put swapiness at 10 or so), I'll seriously consider upgrading to 16 GB.
But 8 GB shouldn't be that small until I use a VM in which case the problem of low RAM might pop up.
 
  • #57
Putting the memory cards in in pairs is often required and usually increases performance even if not required. Some MB can increase memory bandwidth even more if you use 4 modules of all the same size.

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  • #58
rbelli1 said:
Putting the memory cards in in pairs is often required and usually increases performance even if not required. Some MB can increase memory bandwidth even more if you use 4 modules of all the same size.

BoB
I didn't know it was sometimes required but I did know that 2 x 4 GB is usually faster than 1 x 8 GB thanks to dual channel. I didn't pick 2 x 4 GB sticks because I may upgrade to 2 x 8 GB in a very near future and I'd like to have some more room for upgrade, and I have only 4 slots.

I forgot to mention I will attempt to build the pc myself once I receive all parts.
 
  • #59
Ok thank you guys, you convinced me to order another 8 GB stick of RAM, same brand, frequency, etc. than the one I had ordered.
 
  • #60
I've just finished to build the computer though I didn't try to power it on yet. Here's is how it looks like: http://imgur.com/MNG4Q6b (http://imgur.com/MNG4Q6b).
I had read how not to mess up thanks to google but I still managed to mess up in a way nobody has ever messed up before : I removed the 4 expansion slots in the back of the case, even though I won't use any of those. So my case is more opened than it should, not that big of a deal, but still. I made this error because I was sure I had to remove "something" (in particular the I/O panel that comes preinstalled with the case, but there were none) because that's what I had read in the tutorials I had read.
There were several steps where I was unsure on how to build, like when I realized the case fan had a 3 pins connection but the motherboard only has 4 pins connectors for fans. Little did I knew that it's normal and I could still plug it.
Or the power to CPU cable, the pins doesn't match the ones on the motherboard (some are square and others have a different form). Again, I didn't know that it's normal and that I could still plug the power cable into the motherboard even though all pins don't match.
All in all, a pretty enjoyable experience.
 
  • #61
Looks nice and tidy, good layout. If you think the airflow in the case is compromised you could just tape up those holes. In a few months check for dust accumulation.
 
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  • #62
john101 said:
Looks nice and tidy, good layout. If you think the airflow in the case is compromised you could just tape up those holes. In a few months check for dust accumulation.
Good idea.
I powered up the computer and it works. Thanks for all guys!
 
  • #63
Hi I would recommend getting a 8 gb ram with extra 250gb of device storage because sometimes when working on a computer for a interview or job things happened to disappear when not having enough space
Plus get a 15" monitor to see your work and a 2nd cooling fan because many computers overheat and stop working.
 

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