Building a Solid knowledge of Quantum Field Theory

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a solid understanding of Quantum Field Theory (QFT) and its connection to quantum mechanics and particle physics. Participants seek recommendations for comprehensive resources that bridge gaps in their knowledge and provide detailed derivations.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for resources that provide a comprehensive understanding of QFT, particularly how it relates to quantum mechanics and particle physics.
  • Several participants recommend "Quantum Field Theory and the Standard Model" by Schwartz as a detailed resource.
  • Others suggest "Student Friendly Quantum Field Theory" by Klauber, noting its accessibility but questioning its completeness.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the clarity of Klauber's book, particularly regarding the LSZ reduction formalism and its role in understanding the S-matrix.
  • There are differing opinions on the necessity of the LSZ reduction formalism for calculating the S-matrix, with some arguing it is essential while others contend it is not required for making measurable predictions.
  • Participants mention additional resources, including David Tong's lecture notes and works by Padmanabhan and Manoukian, while seeking comparisons to other textbooks like Peskin's.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best resource for understanding QFT, with multiple competing views on the adequacy of Klauber's book and the importance of the LSZ formalism in calculations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express concerns about the completeness of resources labeled as "student friendly," indicating a potential gap in advanced content. The discussion also highlights varying levels of mathematical rigor and pedagogical approaches in the recommended texts.

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Hello! I read several books and took courses on quantum mechanics and particle physics and I understood the topics. However I feel that I have only pieces of informations without a global image of what is going on. For example in the particle physics classes we were given Feynman rules without too many details on how to obtain them and we just applied them. I would like something that would help me feel the gap between quantum mechanics and particle physics (with all the main derivation presented), basically I want to really understand how to use quantum mechanics in particle physics. Can you recommend me some (as complete as possible) resources for this? Thank you!
 
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I recommend the book "Quantum Field Theory and the Standard Model" by Schwartz. It is a very comprehensive book with many details.
 
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I recommend "Student Friendly Quantum Field Theory" By Robert D Klauber. It is relatively easy to follow.
 
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Demystifier said:
Another vote for Klauber!
Thank you for advice. About the book, how complete is it, as usually when they have "Student" in their name the books are a bit dumbed down, and some parts are missing. Also, do you think it can be found online for free?
 
Silviu said:
About the book, how complete is it, as usually when they have "Student" in their name the books are a bit dumbed down, and some parts are missing.
It contains the basic stuff, not the advanced, but the derivations are presented in fair details. From your first post, it looks as if this is what you need. The book by Schwartz recommended above is more advanced and complete, but I wouldn't recommend it for the first book on QFT.

Silviu said:
Also, do you think it can be found online for free?
Yes, but not legally. :wink:
 
Dr Transport said:
Klauber or QFT for the gifted amateur
QFT for the gifted amateur is great, but it's not ideal for those who know from the start that they want to specialize in particle physics.
 
I'm still puzzled by Klauber's book. What's "student friendly"? I find it quite confusing. E.g., where is a clear derivation of the LSZ reduction formalism which is crucial to understand the S matrix? I'd still recommend Schwartz's book as the first book for QFT.
 
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vanhees71 said:
E.g., where is a clear derivation of the LSZ reduction formalism which is crucial to understand the S matrix?
I think LSZ is not essential to understand S-matrix, especially if mathematical rigor is not the goal.
 
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Silviu said:
Hello! I read several books and took courses on quantum mechanics and particle physics and I understood the topics. However I feel that I have only pieces of informations without a global image of what is going on. For example in the particle physics classes we were given Feynman rules without too many details on how to obtain them and we just applied them. I would like something that would help me feel the gap between quantum mechanics and particle physics (with all the main derivation presented), basically I want to really understand how to use quantum mechanics in particle physics. Can you recommend me some (as complete as possible) resources for this? Thank you!

Quantum Field Theory by Padmanabhan
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3319281712/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Quantum Field Theory I & II by Manoukian
1. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3319309382/?tag=pfamazon01-20
2. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/331933851X/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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vanhees71 said:
I'm still puzzled by Klauber's book. What's "student friendly"? I find it quite confusing. E.g., where is a clear derivation of the LSZ reduction formalism which is crucial to understand the S matrix? I'd still recommend Schwartz's book as the first book for QFT.

Actually, we don't have to use LSZ reduction formalism to calculate S matrix.
But, anyway, I also recommend Schwartz for QFT book.
 
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Demystifier said:
I think LSZ is not essential to understand S-matrix, especially if mathematical rigor is not the goal.
LSZ is the key to understand the meaning of QFT in the first place, and it's a difficult concept. For get mathematical rigor. It's well known that so far there is no mathematically rigorous definition of interacting quantum fields for realistic (i.e., Standard Model) cases :-(.
 
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Arifi said:
Actually, we don't have to use LSZ reduction formalism to calculate S matrix.
But, anyway, I also recommend Schwartz for QFT book.
How else do you want to calculate the S matrix?
 
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vanhees71 said:
LSZ is the key to understand the meaning of QFT in the first place
The purpose of science is not to give a meaning, it's to make the measurable predictions, right? I can calculate S-matrix, and hence make measurable predictions, without using LSZ.

Of course, LSZ is needed if I want to calculate S-matrix from n-point functions. But I don't need to calculate S-matrix from n-point functions. For instance, the old-fashioned Dyson approach does not rest on n-point functions.
 
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Demystifier said:
The purpose of science is not to give a meaning, it's to make the measurable predictions, right? I can calculate S-matrix, and hence make measurable predictions, without using LSZ.

Of course, LSZ is needed if I want to calculate S-matrix from n-point functions. But I don't need to calculate S-matrix from n-point functions. For instance, the old-fashioned Dyson approach does not rest on n-point functions.

I do agree with you. This is what I mean.
 
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vanhees71 said:
E.g., where is a clear derivation of the LSZ reduction formalism which is crucial to understand the S matrix? I'd still recommend Schwartz's book as the first book for QFT.
Even your favored advanced QFT textbook, namely Weinberg 1, explains S-matrix without LSZ. It mentions LSZ only much later, in Sec. 10 Non-perturbative methods (Sec. 10.3 to be more precise).
 
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Ok, in this sense, you are right. Perhaps I should have a closer look at Klauber's book, before I comment on it. So far, I've glanced over it and decided to use other books ;-)).
 
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vanhees71 said:
Ok, in this sense, you are right. Perhaps I should have a closer look at Klauber's book, before I comment on it. So far, I've glanced over it and decided to use other books ;-)).
Well, Klauber is much more pedestrian than Schwartz, which might be the reason that you, as an expert in QFT, prefer Schwartz over Klauber. But I think students usually like pedestrian approaches.
 
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Pedestrian is never wrong, but it should be a nice walk rather than one with a lot of pitfalls ;-).
 
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